Generic_Bills_Fan

I feel like the defensive scheme has been changing a good amount starting around the playoffs last year but the results are bad so no one cares (which is understandable lol). Feels like we’re playing way more man than usual at minimum.

Edge actually feels like it’s been pretty good for the first time in a long time which has given me some hope lol. in the interior, Walker has looked good at times in and Ed has played well also. Everything else on defense has been horrible though to the point where Shaq Thompson felt like a huge upgrade over our starters at LB 😂 id just stick Hoecht at OLB and have him blitz his a** off haha that’s gotta be better than anything most of our LBs have been doing

He’s been pretty bad in two preseasons now… that late regular season bills game was even less meaningful than a preseason game imo cuz it was pats starters against bills backups the whole way

Last season was kinda the same exact trajectory to be fair. One huge game and one where we dominated and he didn’t have to do much of anything in the first few games then a nosedive in October. Couple games where we played a good half but were sleepwalking through the rest, banged up defense, beat bad teams and lost to the only two good ones we saw in a 4-2 start there wasnt much talk about Josh being mvp in week 6 after just sneaking by the jets after two ugly losses.

Idk if anything has changed since I saw this meme flying around the internet but apparently the broncos are running the nfl’s least creative offense when looking at motion rates etc. could be bo nix limitations though for sure. I think Payton is possibly just another guy the nfl has passed by. It’s not his specialty that is working well for them. eagles got murdered by the giants when the giants were starting bargain bin receivers the next week lol. I’m not sure the broncos sneaking by them is super relevant. I think he’s probably just another mcd at best where do the broncos have less talent outside of qb? The skill position players is pretty comparable and their defense is loaded.

Still can’t believe that happened

Such a freaky Friday year for the bills where I think the DL is gonna be good for once and the secondary terrible 😂

I think Moore has a solid skill set but 0 football iq after watching that game Monday haha falcons could just blitz all night because some of those WRs that never really play had absolutely no idea how to adjust their routes even our straight up JAGs would’ve been open a ton if they at least knew what they were doing 😂 if we can’t get a big fish adding a pretty good wr with a little bit of common sense could still help a bunch

Idk what’s going on with Rapp but I’d imagine the team is about ready to give up on him as well. He was pretty serviceable last year which probably gave him a longer leash but he’s been about as bad as you can be this year lol feels like bishop is getting better to me but he has been the victim of an unfortunate lowlight where he has to tackle a massive running back one on one in the open field a few times haha assuming Palmer stays healthy(which I don’t think you can assume unfortunately) if you could only pick one player to add I think a safety would be the bigger impact but we really need both. If you’re going into a hugely important game with just Shakir though and no Kincaid/palmer wr would be the bigger add

He seemed to fiddle with defensive attention and free up other guys….it was probably more subtle than most people expected but the offense got significantly better overall with him in the lineup

This is probably true overall but I really do think having even just one more pretty good wr could move the needle a good amount. Even that would be much better than nothing imo but obviously the better the guy you can get the better it is the depth is pretty dreadful if Palmer goes down which was a huge issue Monday night. Shavers/moore were about as bad as you could get at route adjustments it was like they’ve never played football before lol

He’s traded for a player midseason three years in a row I’m pretty sure 😂 it would be more unusual if he didn’t trade for someone lol

He’s traded for players midseason the last 3 years I’m pretty sure unless I’m goofing on the Hynes trade year

This board hates Kincaid but he seems to get a lot of defensive attention…Josh looks really uncomfortable without Kincaid out there

I think he’ll probably give them all one final chance unless we miss the playoffs and maybe if we end up a wildcard team. Not sure that’s what I want to happen but that seems like what’s gonna happen 😂

The defense is a straight up enigma…I really think there’s players playing well and a lot of them were meant to be depth pieces it is so strange. Deone Walker gives me a sliver of hope as that is notoriously one of the big problem spots.. I think there’s still a chance they turn it around I think Hoecht could be great tbh and he plays a few positions of enormous need. Ogunjobi is a veteran coming off a few bad years that maybe a change of scenery helps. I don’t have as much hope for him

Im all for the overall negativity but the Baltimore point is so annoying…we saw a much better Baltimore team than anyone else did

I wish it was easier to find blitz/man defense rates haha I’m way too sad to rewatch the last few games. To me it feels like the scheme is changing which is either a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it 😂 but I could be wrong.

This is always so interesting cuz people are like ‘they’re just depth pieces who cares’ but beane seems to miss on all his big signings/early draft picks and his depth signings/late picks go on to be impact players haha If we truly think Hoecht is a depth piece he’ll probably be an all pro 😂

If you fire him now the OC everyone hates is now the head coach and Bobby babich is the only one coaching your defense lol. If we had some coordinator we wanted to audition for HC I’d somewhat understand it but we don’t

That’s definitely fair

The eagles have stretches of looking completely hopeless every year. Last year it was early in the season, two years ago it was late

I know people hate the injury excuse and I totally understand that but shavers/moore missed pretty much every adjustment all night lol. I’m all for thinking Palmer is just ok so far but I doubt he has that problem

I wish I could go back to the time where I 100% believed this lol as absolutely horrendous as this defense is for like 60% of games they seem to get the needed stops to get back in the game very often it’s honestly kinda comical. I don’t get how a defense this terrible for 2 1/2 quarters can do that so consistently

I won’t ever agree with this take of trading Josh personally haha but I feel like we gotta let this season play out before I’ll even understand the other side of it. I don’t think any AFC team with any coaching staff will ever just walk away from the chiefs in the playoffs. You can bring in whoever you want and you’re always gonna get put in the ‘drive down the field for a td to ice it’ and that’s where we’ve been. Obviously if we go backwards and struggle to make the playoffs/get bounced early, the decision gets easy. If we lose a super close one to kc again it’s tough but doable. The ‘who do you bring in’ question is kinda murky at this point though and makin me a little nervous. Anyone available is giving me the ‘chargers firing schottenheimer for norv turner and schottenheimer laughing at that franchise every day for the rest of his life’ kinda vibe to me 😂. I think the big names were Zach Orr and Joe Brady comin into the season haha yikes. I think the absolute best you can do at this point is previously failed head coach/infamously produces diminishing returns on offense Kliff Kingsbury He actually looked really really good in the pocket against NE tbh…I think it’s mental more than anything where he likes to be moving around and teams kinda try to use that against him. I think he’ll still be great well into his 30s