Einstein's Dog

No need for name calling. We see things differently. To me it's bizarre to want to know more about the wheel chair for instance. In an earlier post you seemed surprised that I thought there might be additional video that we haven't seen, so much so to add...."your full of *****". Like Newark airport wouldn't have any security cameras. As far as being spoonfed, it's you who is having a hard time coming to grips with something right in front of your face. There is the Post article detailing the whole wheel chair debacle, video showing punches thrown, and a follow up indicating an arrest to Langley was made. I don't need any more information, Langley is a jackwagon. Has it gotten through to you yet?

Yeah, and one of the people who had access to much more information, the policeman, seemed to clearly indicate who he thought the aggressor was. I didn't realize this loser Langley had such a big fan club. From "I can't believe he got arrested for winning a fight", to "I'll have to have more information about the wheel chair", to "Nobody in the public knows how it all began/who instigated the altercation". Well, spoiler alert, only one person was arrested. It really wouldn't have been such a surprise ending if people had caught the foreshadowing - the guy who took a wheel chair instead of paying $5, the guy calling out to the crowd about "Did you see that", the guy who went on twitter to reprimand the person who claimed he did it.

You're bordering on the ridiculous now - how can you think the police wouldn't have more/better information than us/ypu? Not only videos but they would have talked with people involved. You do not know who threw the first punch. The police would have a much better chance at knowing who did. Just because a person is arrested and then released with no charges filed does not mean a mistake was made in arresting him.

Just because you haven't seen video doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The police had a lot more information to work with than you do. The worker was fired makes sense based on video we saw. He could have walked away but didn't, he engaged with Langley. Just because mistakes happen doesn't mean a mistake happened in this instance.

The Post article said there was video of Langley with the first blow. The police who had much more to go on than you or I, made one arrest - Langley. You were wondering why, so Langley's prior history is relevant. People may get wrongly arrested, percentage wise it is a small amount. So for me, the fact Langley got arrested coupled with his jackwagon history was enough to believe he earned it. And while I believe Langley did something to deserve getting arrested I don't believe it had to do with the wheelchair, that was just the start of the whole incident (and the wheel chair didn't cost $5, he did that to avoid the cost).

Is it really that hard for you to believe that Langley started the fight, threw the first punch? So no, it's not the wheelchair or winning the fight. Langley has a pattern of jackwagon behavior- from taking the wheelchair, to being involved in throwing punches, to crying out to the crowd for a look at me moment. Not hard to imagine Langley continued being an entitled, arrogant, dork when questioned by police and thus, ended up arrested. And don't forget the Post article mentions there is another video that appears to show Langley land the first blow (big surprise). We really shouldn't have needed all that John. Langley was arrested, and from that event you should lean towards Langley did something stupid. Your thought process of thinking Langley was arrested for winning a fight, and now thinking the wheel chair, is baffling.

No, I'm assuming he did something jackwagonish because he got arrested. You, on the other hand, seemed outraged because you assumed he was arrested because he won the fight.

Seems like you are assuming they arrested him because he was the winner of the fight. Maybe they're arrested him in part because he is a jackwagon. Looks like he took a wheel chair, instead of paying the $5. Not a leap of faith to believe this stellar citizen threw the first punch, and then was excessive in his beatdown of the dorky airline guy. And you assume that those events were the end of the jackwagons behavior - I wouldn't bet on it, I can imagine he was a peach when the cops came in.

No the act of squaring up does not make it fair game to swing away. You're making up your own rules here. And then trying to justify them. But can't you see with your logic you would be encouraging/promoting more fighting - and that's not really the what society is going for here. You would want to be the one throwing the first punch because it increases your odds of winning. So in conclusion, no squaring up does not mean you are agreeing to fight, no you don't get to hit someone who has squared up because you consider it self defense, and no you shouldn't always try to get in the first punch.

And that illustrates part of the problem - there is no hard definition of a trap game. So the purported statistical studies are based on a subjective definition of the term "trap game".

I think if Davis or Diggs get injured they would move Crowder to the outside and put McKenzie in the slot (until Shakir overtakes McK). It does seem a little risky and maybe they are looking at either TY Hilton or W Fuller at a good price.

Well they just did finally put the hammer down on the B Hall thread, so this isn't all that unexpected.

I would think outside WR3 would be on the short list of remaining FA, Sanders old spot has not been replaced. This seems now higher on the list than CB. As it looks now the WR group is slightly behind last year. Diggs/Davis -same, Crowder slightly better than Beas, McK - same, and then 5th round pick or Kumerow seem like a big drop from Sanders. It seems short sighted to wait until an injury to bring in a WR, they take time to gel. Could bring back Sanders. Julio seems like he would be expensive but still out there, W Fuller has speed. Maybe Crowder can go outside- Beas never did.

I agree with you, I like Davis as #2 and think he overtook Sanders by year end for the WR2 job. My concern is outside WR#3 which had been by years end Sanders. Now if Davis goes down, it gets tricky. I don't think Kumerow or the 5th rounder are the answer. Maybe Crowder can slide over and have McKenzie in the slot (I kind of liked McK in the slot over Beas at the end of the year). Maybe, they bring back Sanders for the backup, seems like he was saying all the right things - wouldn't cause waves taking the backup role. But it seemed like Sanders was fading fast (kind of similar to J Brown's rapid slide).

Enjoyed the read, thx. Couple of points came to mind for me: I think Shakir will help the ST by quickly winning over the return duties. I think WR group as it stands right now is a little weaker than it was last year. Most are the same and Crowder, I think, will be a slight improvement over the declining Beas. And Davis will be in his third year another slight improvement. But the Sanders void was not filled, currently I don't see a third outside WR.

Yes, after further review, Sanders prices may be too much. And I don't know about Fuller being a process kind of guy, his injury/not playing history kind of makes it look like he isn't. I think another outside WR would be nice though.

A 28 yo, veteran, 4.32 speed WR coming off a thumb injury (big whoop). Beane has to offer at least $6M. Fuller was stuck in Miami last year, no need to come back fast from that. This guy is better for '22 than J Williams would be. And those top 10 rookies get close to $5M I think.

AJ signed with AZ. I need you on the W Fuller bandwagon - 4.32 speed at Sanders prices.

This has been my hope. That the FO went into the draft with the possibility of CB (Wallace) and WR (Sanders) spots open. They didn't hit on the Sanders position and so now they should finish it off in FA. I think Stevenson may be done - the recently acquired 5th rounder has done special team returns. The FA WR market is tight however. Julio Jones, Will Fuller, TY Hilton, maybe Sanders again, OBJ (though injured), and maybe D Jackson (though ancient). I'm rooting for Will Fuller! Serious veteran speed would fit like a glove here. Get in done Beane! I almost did a Pounding the Table for Will Fuller thread - but those haven't been turning out so well.

Pounding the table for Will Fuller! The FO intentionally went into the draft with two holes - CB (Wallace) + WR (Sanders). They did not fill the Sanders spot (and no, a 5th round pick that went after the run on kickers does not count). The FA money goes to the WR. Of the WRs - W Fuller is the man. He is the speed man that would fit like a glove in this offense. His injury history is what is holding him back from big money, and on a prove it deal I think Beane could get him for Sanders money.

Did you see Hall's interview? Not really a process guy from what I saw. Hall will be lucky to average 4.6 ypc with the Jets. I would much prefer C Watson and a 3rd round RB

C Watson vs B Hall 1. Speed C Watson > B Hall CW ran 4.34, BH ran a 4.39 2. Height C Watson > B Hall CW over 6'4, BH lucky to be 6' 3. Finance spot C Watson > B Hall CW takes Sanders $6M spot, B Hall takes either Singletary/Moss $2M 4. Potential C Watson > B Hall CW has M Williams/W Fuller $20M, BH has $7M L Fournette 5. Attitude C Watson > B Hall CW is small school Joshlike, BH kind of a doosh

Maybe not in a few hours though- there are a lot of mocks that have Hall going to us at 57 (where he is a much better fit).

I'm with you, it's time to groom another RB to take Singletary's place. But that RB should not be a 1st round pick.

It's not pretend. Many (myself included) think that taking an RB in the first damages the mid to long term outlook. You are ignoring the financial impact of the draft choice in hopes of a short term boost. If the Bills could draft a WR, safety, CB, LB you can see the logical use from a mid term perspective - they will be groomed to replace expensive spots with a $3M player. What if the RB is average? You have an overpriced player occupying a spot on your roster. If the WR is average at least they are occupying the Sanders spot of $6M. It is risky picking an RB. And contrary to many, I particularly don't like Hall, I thought from the interview I saw he came off pompous and arrogant. Seems like our FO has a different view.