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He's been around for nearly 4 seasons as well. I can't think of many great LBs who didn't figure it out until their second contract. MLBs especially need to have great instincts. The idea of developing instincts is a a bit paradoxical.

This is what makes the Basham pick so strange to me (and I really liked him coming out of the draft). I understand going DE even after drafting Epenesa a year ago. I also understand not reaching to fill needs. That said, Beane went DE in the first and the best C in the draft fell right into his lap. When the best player available also happens to be a huge position of need, you RUN to the podium. Supposedly they were even going to trade the pick if Basham hadn't been available. The Chiefs have been feasting on players the Bills should have drafted. Creed seemed like such an obvious pick for Buffalo that I half expected Kansas City to trade ahead of them. Meanwhile, Basham will be a 24 year old rookie next week who still has never started a game. When McBeane took over, they had a very clear vision and they executed the plan beautifully. I have no idea what the plan is now, though. There's talent, but the roster as a whole has some serious issues.

That throw was unreal. Wow

How did he not score?

Let Dalvin Cook.

Cousins has hung him out to dry on multiple occasions tonight. He’s going to get JJ killed. You can make a case that Diggs is a better WR, but Jefferson is clearly having the better season. It’s better than any season Diggs has ever had.

He might be the best in the league right now.

Ben shouldn’t be in the game. What are they trying to prove?

They look as inept as any team I’ve seen all year.

All of it. The fifth year option they picked up is guaranteed.

What other bad weather NFL games has Josh played in? I remember home against Kansas City last year was a struggle in heavy rain.

You think someone is giving up a first round pick for the right to pay Edmunds $13,000,000? Beane will be lucky if he can find anyone to take him without throwing in a pick as part of a salary dump.

Those are some elite whites. Fromm would have loved them.

This has Rooney Rule written all over it.

Dodson is the OLB. He took on the block and forced the run back to the middle where he should have had a MLB waiting. Joke’s on him though. That MLB was hopelessly lost running ever further out of position. Dodson is the OLB. He took on the block and forced the run back to the middle where he should have had a MLB waiting. Joke’s on him though. That MLB was hopelessly lost running ever further out of position. Dodson is the OLB. He took on the block and forced the run back to the middle where he should have had a MLB waiting. Joke’s on him though. That MLB was hopelessly lost running ever further out of position.

Are Diggs and Bass in the club? Is Knox in the club? Obviously Breida is in the club.

WTF? Dodson was the only person on the field who didn’t blow their assignment. Epenesa ran himself out of the play completely giving up the edge. Dodson took on the FB and forced the play into Edmunds’s gap. Edmunds ran clear past his gap. Milano took a terrible angle, and then the Safety (Hyde IIRC) was nowhere to be found. It looked like a Chinese fire drill. It’s possible that Epenesa was supposed to dive to the inside and Hyde was going to back fill the edge. That would have been fine had Edmunds not hit the wrong gap. The more I think about it, this seems the most likely explanation.

How much more should they have passed? They called something like 35 pass plays and 22 runs in a windstorm. When you count the sacks and scrambles it wound up being 30 passes, 25 runs, and 2 sacks. The notion around here that the run/pass balance was out of whack is a complete fabrication.

Yes. I mean exactly that. 2 years of drafts and you’re highlighting a Kicker, a WR with 19 catches this season, and two guys who look good. These are all nice pieces, but the only player on the list who has even played half the snaps on either side of the ball is Rousseau at 51%. I like Groot and Brown a lot, but you can’t keep getting nothing out of high picks like Ford, Epenesa and Basham. You don’t need stars with every day 2 pick, but if you aren’t getting serviceable starters or at the very least heavy rotational pieces then you wind up with serious roster issues. You’re seeing signs of it now, and I think next year is going to be eye opening if some of these guys don’t start figuring it out quickly.

You’re really conflating other teams’ investments with Beane’s investments. Allen cost (essentially) the 21st pick, Corey Glenn, and 2 second round picks. Diggs cost a 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th round pick plus his contract. That first was used for Justin Jefferson IIRC. If you call Diggs a 5th round investment, then you should call Trubisky the second overall pick.

I think you’re missing the elephant in the room. The team is getting next to nothing out of the past 2 draft classes. If some of these guys don’t start performing then next year could get really ugly. Beane did a great job drafting Allen, trading for Diggs, and signing a few team friendly extensions. He’s really struggled finding value in the draft since the Allen pick, though.

In your opinion, did McDaniels call better plays than Daboll, or did the Patriots simply execute better?

Oliver is interesting. If he had been taken in the 4th round, I think he would be viewed as slightly better than JAG. I’m really curious to see what he ends up signing for. I wonder if Beane will have the stones to let him walk if he demands top of the market. He took Edmunds and Oliver in the top half of the first in consecutive years, and not giving either of them a second contract would be a tough pill to swallow.

It’s probably too early to say for sure if that’s the case, but so far he hasn’t had any issues for a few years. He was looked at as a late first to mid second round prospect otherwise. Honestly, I think every team just took him off their draft boards, Kansas City included. By the time the end of the sixth round came, I think the Chiefs somehow noticed that he hadn’t been taken by anyone. It makes sense that everyone just assumed that SOMEONE would take him in maybe the third or fourth, so that’s the only explanation I can think of for how a top 3 Guard was still sitting there to be taken at 226. Honestly, there are a lot of GMs who should be getting dragged for letting him fall that far. You just can’t let a guy with that much ability fall that far. Hell, Buffalo had 3 6th round picks and took 2 guys who can barely get on the field for special teams snaps and one who was cut over a guy who was so good that he pretty much took over the starting job day 1 of training camp. I know the near unanimous reaction on the Chiefs board when he was picked was disbelief that he was still available.

What do you think Edmunds and Oliver will get in their next deals?