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Um we lose to Patrick Mahomes. He loses to Ryan Tannehill as the 1 seed and throws a 99 yard pick six vs us. At this point in their careers, Allen has better playoff numbers and far more playoff wins. If you polled random NFL fans that weren’t Bills or Ravens fans about who was a better playoff performer, Allen would win a landslide. It’s actually not close.

Seconded Bullard. WR, Bullard, WR is my ideal draft top 3. I liked Antonio Johnson a lot a few years ago and thought he was a lock to be either a Bill or gone in the second and he went far far later. So imo there’s a chance Bullard is hanging around in the late second.

We have our QB to thank. That we drafted top 7.

It’s posted less than an inch away.

Lamar hilariously enough has 1 WC win in his career. He’s gotten clowned by the Titans, the Bills and now the Chiefs. If he wasn’t a 2 time MVP, and there weren’t so many weird racial overtones in his commentary for good and for ill, he would be fighting the “fraud” allegations far more than just about any QB in the league. As much as I like to watch Lamar and think he’s special, he might be legit like the 12th QB I’d want for a playoff run.

Aaron Kromer is shaking his fist that strangling is a crime in this country.

Why did the Pats suddenly become a bottom feeder team with the same GM/HC? Why did the Bucs win the Super Bowl with Tom Brady immediately? Why did the Bills go from a team that needed help on the last game of the season to the make the playoffs as a wildcard to cruising to division titles every year? it’s a mystery @Alphadawg7

Man very sad.

I understand exactly what you’re saying. I just don’t entirely agree. Yes, sitting a QB can help. I agree with that. Yes, I agree that Brady maybe doesn’t win 6 SB’s in a different situation. What I am arguing is that he’d STILL BE A GREAT QB. He would’ve NEVER been Ryan Fitzpatrick. Never, ever. Just like Josh would’ve never been Fitz. Ever.

Situations matter. To an extent. I’m not arguing otherwise. what im arguing is that great situations can make a B+ QB into an A- or an A. Bad situation can also make an A QB into a B plus. Situations will never make a C or D QB into an A QB. Ever. Ever ever. Mark Sanchez could’ve sat for a year on the 2017 Chiefs with Hill and Kelce and Reid and never, ever, ever, been great. This is just nonsense. Jared Goff isn’t a Hall of Famer. we all agree he survived, yeah? Is Stroud a Hall of Famer? What about Herbert? Or Lawrence? All of them survived getting thrown into the fire.

I guess I just disagree. I think Brady would’ve still been great. I think Romo would’ve been really good. Folks like to say QB’s get “ruined,” but what does that mean? Justin Fields is incapable of improving now after a few bad seasons? Why? Bad habits he can’t break? I never bought it and I still don’t. How did Jared Goff somehow shake off his rookie year? He should’ve been “ruined” by Jeff Fisher, right? Or maybe, just maybe, the ones who suck with arguably bad coaching and then suck with arguably good coaching…. just suck.

Hardware just matters to the HoF. I don’t think there’s a 2 time MVP who ISN’T in the HoF. it’s sorta like the old Eli Manning debate. Was he a HoF player year after year? No. Does winning two SB’s almost assuredly get him in? YUP.

Okay so Bass is a lost cause. Bring in some rugby guy and develop him differently.

I don’t disagree that sitting for a bit can be helpful. I do disagree with the philosophy of “get this guy good enough.” That’s legitimately worse. If Wilson or Darnold sit for a season then get 3 seasons starting after that and are just “okay” QB’s, you aren’t going anywhere anyway. The cream rises to the top. Josh could’ve sat, he could’ve started week one, it wouldn’t matter, he’d still be what he is today. Same with Burrow. Same with Lamar. Same with Mahomes. Same with Stafford. I firmly believe that. I would also disagree that they always throw them to the fire. Sanchez was game managing hard when he got drafted. He still sucked. He was playing Mac Jones ball, which got them more success than they deserved. And it’s the same thing that happened to Mac.

Bass is absolutely slumping. That’s why it’s the perfect time to adjust to give him an edge. I disagree that they have worked it out. I think they kick from where they kick because that’s where they kick from, point blank. You are absolutely be right that adjusting kicking distance may actually be worse. But if you adjust the mechanics, maybe you could actually be better. Better than say, the other 31 teams who just think “sign this guy he kick good doing it the way we always do it .”

Zach Wilson was never a good QB. That’s where you’re wrong lol. Aaron Rodgers wasn’t bad last year. He got hurt. There is a significant difference between getting hurt and being garbage. Wilson is garbage. Just like Darnold was garbage. Lots of folks like you thought Sammy boy was just being held back by the Jets. They worked for the Panthers and traded for Sam for a second round pick. They are begging for change on the freeway now. Sam and Zach would look bad behind the Bills OL in 2021 and 2022. Do you know why Josh was still amazing those years? Because he’s a MUCH BETTER QB. It has nothing to do with Brandon Beane’s leadership in the FO. Zero, zilch, nada.

Now you're talking. There were 17 blocked kicks last year. Out of 1060 total FGA. That's about 1%. Worrying about blocks is foolish. Statistically, that's an extreme improbability.

That’s where we agree

I’m sorry but I disagree. Lamar as a 2 time MVP getter is pretty much a lock for HoF. I think Allen and Lamar will both be in there.

Meh, he had a passer rating of 97 in SF. Josh Allen’s career passer rating is 92. He was playing well above his skis.

I’m not sure anyone’s done the math. Um, you know this is the same league that didn’t figure out it was smart to go for it on 4th downs sometimes for like 80 years, right? Yeah, I’m thinking it’s possible they are collectively a low ingenuity group that does a lot of things “because that’s the way it’s always been done.” NFL teams watched college players run the read option to great success for like 20 years. Folks like you laughed when it was brought up as something NFL teams could try. “There’s good reasons why they don’t run read option in the NFL,” you cried. Now, of course, just about every team has at least a read option play in their playbook.

Tom Brady would’ve still been a great QB. Matt Stafford would’ve been a great QB. Regardless of who drafted them or where they played. EJ would’ve sucked everywhere. Maybe the finer details of their careers change a bit, but they would’ve been great. This is the phenomenon I like to call “drought brain.” Somehow, a collective of Bills fans believe it’s not mostly just the QB. They believed it during the drought because they couldn’t just admit all our QB’s sucked and now they have to continue to believe it for god knows why. They think the reason the Pats made the playoffs every year, and the Bills didn’t was somehow because the Pats organization was great and the Bills just weren’t developing QB’s right. It wasn’t that Brady was great and Trent and Tyrod and JP and EJ sucked. Even when Brady left NE and they turned into a total dumpster fire, with the exact same HC and FO and Brady won a ring in Tampa immediately, they refuse to believe their eyes. I guess somehow the Bills turned into a superstar organization overnight along with the Bucs and BB and NE just forgot how to do it? Even when we cruise to division titles and playoff berths every year and we have far and away the best QB in the division, it can’t just be that we have a great QB. Bizarre to say the least. You’d have to willfully ignore like the entire last 20 years of the NFL to still hold these opinions. Nothing matters until the Bills get the QB, right? Now we got the QB and every team in division doesn’t and all the sudden the QB doesn’t matter lol. Ultimately, as this is a massive tangent, you seem to be operating under the assumption that the first overall pick shouldn’t just get paid way more than everybody, but they should also be encouraged to go to good teams so they can win a Super Bowl? Why? What has Caleb Williams done to deserve to go to a good team to win a Super Bowl? What has he done that makes him more deserving than Allen or Burrow or Lamar? The answer: nothing. Being good in college doesn’t mean you deserve to go to a great organization that’s a QB away from making postseason runs. You go where you’re selected and if you get selected first, you make the most money. That’s how it goes.

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He’s 15-3 in the playoffs, with two losses to Brady. I would argue pretty much everyone seems to have a problem with the big homie.