FireChans

What is your definition of “enough?” Enough to win the AFCE? Sure. But that’s a low bar. Enough to make the playoffs? Sure. Enough to win a Super Bowl? Nah. Allen is elite. He can drag a bunch of bums to the postseason, I have no doubt. And while the future is unknown, there are some things we do know. We do know that Jamar Chase is better than Curtis Samuel, for example. And if every single guy of the JAG brigade matches their career highs, they still won’t be as good as Jamar Chase.

I'm not one to carry water for other posters, but I stumbled upon this earlier. You can look at @BADOLBILZ track record above. He was right. Beane was wrong. Beane/Brady "know" what they want until they make obvious mistakes and folks like you will go "aw shucks, who coulda seen this coming?" lol He had MVS in his sights so clearly that he signed Quintus Cephus the day after the draft?

Had to get our second round safety and backup 3T DT and backup RB baby!

“I was given false information” is my new go-to legal defense. Incredible lol

post the list or move along. Enough.

Listen man. Go ahead and list all the teams you think the Bills have better weapons than and come back to me once you can’t get past #9 without sounding insane. enough of this.

You don’t say lol. So we are following the plan that has only really consistently worked with 2 teams that had arguably the two greatest QB’s of all time, along with arguably twonof the greatest HC’s of all time, along with arguably two of the greatest TE’s of all time. Welp, let’s hope for the best despite going 0/3 in those criteria. Oh man, 3/5. With all that investment, there’s no way we could have a destitute WR room and a gaggle of “weapons” led second best TE from the 2023 draft class.

What year did Jimmy Graham win a Super Bowl again? The rest of the TE’s listed are the two best TE’s of all time. If Kincaid is a Jimmy Graham-type, that just proves he’s not enough to win a Super Bowl, following this logic.

Stop trying to convince me to subscribe to bad strategies! The only way I consider paying Cook is if he starts catching 60+ balls a year.

How many folks in this thread laughing at the Vikings loved the Diggs extension for top 5 money 2 years ago? 90% conservatively.

The Green Bay approach was to draft 5 WR's over the last two years. Beane drafted 1 in round two. Probably not.

Sure but they would probably trade us JJ and Addison for MVS, Claypool, Shakir, Kincaid and Samuel. 5 good targets are better than 2 great ones, or so I’ve been told.

The best thing to do when you have a young QB is give him great targets so he can reach his potential. We did the exact same thing with Josh and Diggs lol

The top 3 RB’s in scrimmage yards 2 years ago were Jonathan Taylor, Najee Harris, and Austin Ekeler. Ekeler is washed, Najee’s career has hit a cliff, and Jonathan Taylor hasn’t cracked 1k rushing yards since. DO NOT PAY RUNNING BACKS. IT IS THE WORST INVESTMENT IN THE NFL.

The Vikings also have cheap good WRs. And they aren’t paying their QB Jordan Love money anytime soon,

No. Never.

All I know is that Ive long complained about our WR investments for the last 3 years. The Beane WR strategy has resulted in: Extending Diggs 2 years before his contract was up because he was the only real talent in the room Relying on inconsistent Gabe Davis on a week to week basis Trent Sherfield whiffing on passes in the playoffs, resulting in a loss. Trading Diggs and absorbing the biggest non-QB dead cap hit in history. Honestly, I have already been proven right, imo.

The way of the running back continues.

I think every would agree a first, two 2nds, and a fifth is more than a second, two fifths and a 6th. Of those 4 players, KC’s easy.

He didn’t draft Diggs. And yeah, I meant prior to this year. Here are the Chiefs WR’s drafted since 2020: 5th - Powell 2nd - Moore 2nd - Rice 1st - Worthy Here are the Bills WR’s drafted since 2020: 6th - Stevenson 5th - Shakir 5th - Shorter 2nd - Coleman

I don’t think Coleman does. But that’s a personal opinion and he’s on the team so I’ll hope his the best Bills WR ever.

brother, you are 0fer on the big off-season predictions this year. If you start arguing across multiple threads that there’s no way the Bills trade for a WR, it’s only gonna increase the odds, no matter how sound your reasoning is lol

Yes the Chiefs. They have drafted way more WR’s. Niners too. And Eagles. Cooper Kupp would’ve been the highest drafted WR in Beane’s tenure. No. What I would say is, “we need to rebuild the WR room, Diggs was a cancer and we finally have a couple of young cheap WR’s that may be worth $30M per season that we don’t have to decide to pay or not for YEARS, while Josh has an enormous cap hit.” I have been really really really consistent on this. I wanted the Steelers model on this. And guess what, maybe one of those guys turns into an elite threat? Or maybe even both! Do you know how you ensure you never land on an elite receiving threat? You don’t draft them. MVS will never be elite. Mack Hollins will never be elite. Samuel will never be elite. CLAYPOOL will never be elite. Hamler will never be elite. Ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever. The reason the complaints would cease is because it would be proof that Beane understands having good pass catchers is important. Something he has not proved to know outside of the fever dream of 2019-2020

then we don’t have an elite receiving threat on the roster? I don’t understand. You can’t say we’re forgetting Kincaid is on the team when we’re talking about elite weapons and then say Kincaid is not elite. If he’s elite, then we have one. If he isn’t, then we don’t. Right?

So you are saying today that Kincaid is elite? If that’s your take and you think Kincaid is already elite, and you’re right, then hey, we’ll be alright.