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What strategy does pay off?

QB’s are already the highest paid position by a lot lol.

I can see the weary Brandon Beane presser when they go DE/S in rounds 1 and 2. "The DE we selected was our last first round prospect left" "Obviously, you look at WR as the strength of this class but you have to select the players at the top of your board, especially when the draft falls that way." And then Josh separates his shoulder week 8 trying to rush for his 20th TD of the year because he has no one to throw to.

None of it matters until they figure out the QB. We know this.

Come on bro. Aiyuk over Julio Jones? Julio was filthy in 2015

Keeping their lame duck HC to get fired in the middle of Caleb’s rookie deal is not smart lol

They would if they were smart. I’m not sure they are smart.

Meh he was very good but he was still much less productive than 2021. And he had that lingering hammy last year. I like Kupp a lot. I don’t have him top 10 heading into 2024. Feel like that’s fair evaluation of a 31 year old WR who hasn’t eclipsed 1k in 2 seasons, has been oft injured and best days are probably behind him. This is obvious. Keenan Allen was traded for a 4th. Diggs was traded for a 2nd. Will Higgins/Aiyuk be traded for that price, even despite them about to need a contract as well? Of course not.

He’s not better than DJ Moore. Kupp hasn’t been healthy in 2 seasons. I have very high concerns that he will be the 2021 version of himself in 2024 at 31 years old.

Hard disagree on Kupp, Nakua and Olave. Extremely hard disagree.

He demanded a trade

No, of course not. I didn’t say who was more “valuable” because that’s a much easier conversation. then even guys like Higgins are more valuable than guys like Adams when they are not in the same convo in regards to talent. I think Aiyuk will be a top 10 WR in regards to his talent and production around the league. He’s gonna get a top 5 contract because of his age. Must be down on Tee Higgins too, right? it’s all contract negotiation. Deebo did the same thing a few years back. I doubt he goes anywhere.

I have a very high opinion of Wilson, but I take Aiyuk.

Higgins is probably right below Aiyuk to me. They have very different skill sets. Aiyuk is much better at YAC (part of that is the Shanny scheme) whereas Tee is more of a contested catch guy (and tbh is much more overrated a skill at the NFL level.) Tee to me is a 1B maximum. There’s a reason they chased Chase the next year. Aiyuk had his other WR miss time and posted a BLISTERING 17.9 YPC and a passer rating of 124 when targeted. That’s elite. I think as awesome as it would be to trade and pay him, it’s probably bad business. But I do think he’s going to be in the top 10 next year and will be paid like it. Guys who I would take in 2024 over Aiyuk in no particular order. JJ Chase Hill Lamb St Brown AJ Brown McLaurin ?Evans ?Adams ?Diggs If just one of Diggs/Adams/Evans falls off a Cliff, he’s in my top 10.

So would I. I guess I’m just saying the production is there and the eye test is there. What 10 WR’s do you have better than Aiyuk heading into 2024?

I think it’s probably fair to say he is projecting into the top 10 in the future. Lamb Hill St Brown AJ Brown DJ Moore Puka those were the guys with more yards than Aiyuk last year. And I don’t think Moore or Puka are better than him. Combine that with the 3-4 guys who will likely age out of top 10 status in a year or two (Diggs, Adams, Evans, Hopkins?) Aiyuk is definitely in the conversation.

I don’t believe that Mahomes is all about football all the time 24:7. I do think he works harder than Josh in the off-season. I also think he’s accomplished much more than Allen, as evidence by multiple MVP awards and multiple SB wins. If Josh rips off 3 SB’s and spends his time in the off-season gaining 50 lbs, I won’t give a crap because we are winners and we’ve accomplished the ultimate goal. It’s a tough look to be a 3x divisional appearance QB AND being out worked by the best QB in football whose won 3 championships. No one would complain in Chiefs land if Mahomes started taking it a bit easier. This is all obvious and congruent.

Hopefully we find out, but I’m getting more and more concerned we won’t. In which case I will continue to complain.

If Josh had won 3 SB’s, I wouldn’t complain about anything he ever did or didn’t do.

We are a couple days away from “it was voluntary, Josh didn’t do anything wrong by skipping a bit.”

Imagine how much better he would be if he conditioned himself properly. why be the best when you could be tenth best, I suppose.

If next years WR at #28 was going to be a better prospect than a WR at 41+ this year, this would be a good point.

If every Bills worked as hard as I do posting, we’d have 10 Superbowls by now.

True. what that DOESN’T mean is that they lost because they had Julio. Which is the point. it’s why @Alphadawg7’s points are so silly. “No one ever won a Super Bowl trading up for a WR.” Well guess what fellas? No one ever won a Super Bowl with a QB from Wyoming. Is it time to trade Josh Allen for picks to get JJ McCarthy?

This is where the silly argument in this topic ends. if you don’t think they lost BECAUSE they had elite WR’s, what the ***** are we talking about? The Bucs had Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, Chris Godwin, AND Gronk. Brady went their because they had a bunch of great weapons. They got a little bit older and Baker still got them to the playoffs. What? What?