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This is the same kind of logic that has folks thinking the Bills WR group is gonna be sneaky excellent. Ignorance of the rest of the league is not an excuse for bad football opinions. LaFleur was gifted two MVP seasons from Rodgers and had an NFC Championshop blowout loss where Jimmy G threw 8 passes, and then went to the divisional round off a bye and scored 10 points in a loss. Oh, he also kicked a FG with 2 minutes left down 8 on the opponents 8 yard line in the playoffs. Assuredly lost them the game with one of the worst coaching decisions in history. ”would have almost certainly accomplished more than McDermott” gtfoh. You don’t know Matt LaFleur at all bro.

Lmao that’s because you bozos like to prop up frauds who can’t get out of the NFC with a HoF QB. It’s telling that y’all like to pivot away from arguing bums like LaFleur and McDaniel are better than McDermott once they are challenged. Then you call them “bad arguments” as if anyone defending McDermott said “LOOK AT LAFLEUR” first. Throw this awful diatribe in the trash

We have seen this movie before IRT WR. Why should we trust this 5 dimes is better than 2 quarters approach?

Quote from 2017 trades thread: “Yea but Beane isn't "throwing in the towel" for the season. Don't forget he just signed Anquain Boldin! He actually said that” this is like word for word what Beane said about signing Quintus Cepheus immediately after the draft lol Beane went back to the 2017 well of getting older, slower and worse at WR. Hell yeah

“Blowing a 16 point lead” is always so funny to me. There is no point where we would think a game is over down 16 with Josh Allen at QB. A two score game? Come on. Drought brain still exists for the Houston game where it’s talked about like a 30 point collapse lol.

This is you having a problem with math and statistics in general lol.

I agree with all of that. I have been pretty consistent on this. I think the fire McD for a new voice/shot in the arm people have a point, even if I’m not personally there yet. I admit that eventually may be necessary. I also think McD is one of the better coaches in the NFL. We don’t have to twist ourselves into knots that he’s a loser choke artist fraud POS when it’s not true.

I think questions should be raised after 4 years of having a true franchise guy. I think if he loses a playoff game to any team not named the Chiefs, I would get rid of him. I have said that. McDaniel gets his lunch money taken by McDermott just about everytime they play lol

That was the year they got blown out 42-21, right?

I don’t need him to be my friend lol idc if he’s dull. I like that he gets blood from a stone for a lot of end of roster guys. Dane, Levi, etc etc. I think he’s a good DB coach that has maximized every DB who has been brought in (except Elam who probably is just a bust). I like that when the hit piece came out, the team was 6-6. It would’ve been easy to roll over and die. Part of that may have been players in the lockerroom but I give credit to coaching when a season turns around like that. I like that as a defensive guy, he has clearly clearly improved his 4th down decision making and his aggressiveness in light of having an elite QB. I like that every season he’s been the coach in Buffalo, except for some dog days in 2018, the team has been worth watching. I think in general they are one of the more prepared teams in the NFL. I like that. I think McD is a top 10 coach. I have said that for a while. He’s not the best and he’s not perfect. But he’s pretty good. Somewhere in the Packers boards, there’s a @GoPack808 who is out there saying, “LaFleur couldn’t beat Jimmy G with Rodgers twice, we have no hope of making a Super Bowl with this guy.” The grass is not always greener.

Well Shanny thought he was better off with a Jimmy G so that’s kinda on him, right?

Who won? Lol we won. Y’all are hilarious. Sean McDermott has never lost a playoff game with a QB talent mismatch of Rodgers-Garropolo in his favor ever. Unlike the golden boy LaFleur lol.

McDermott wins one sooner than LaFleur does. Wake me up when McDermott loses to a replacement level QB like Jimmy G in the playoffs

As we all know, allowing 17 points when you have a 13 point lead is insurmountable for an offense to beat. And no, it still wasn’t 17 points in their last 4 drives. You’re still misreading.

Lmao regular season record. Sounds like a McDermott defense.

Things that aren’t true, the post. Houston did not score 24 points. Houston did not score on their last 4 possessions. You know this stuff is easy to look up, right?

Defend LaFleur instead of pivoting, coward.

Terrible blitz call. Only had two free rushers to the QB. Fire McDermott. Texans scored 23 PPG in 2019. Defense held them to 19 through 4 quarters. Texans allowed 24 PPG in 2019. Offense scored 19 through 4 quarters. It's kinda easy to see which side of the ball deserves blame. Forcing a 4th and 1 stop to get the ball back to force OT and then forcing a 3 and out on the first drive of OT is not "choking." 0.0%.

The defense didn't get carved up. The offense could not play. Here are Houston's drives in the 1st half Punt Punt Punt Here are their drives in the 2nd half Punt Punt TD FG (off TO) TD TO on downs (off TO) Here are the Bills offensive drives: 1st half TD Punt FG FG 2nd half Punt FG TO Punt TO on downs FG Yeah, I'm blaming the offense for scoring 6 and turning it over twice in the second half over the defense allowing 19 points through 4 Q's in the playoffs lol. Especially when the defense stopped Houston on 4th and 1 and got the offense the ball back to force OT (and forced a punt for the opening drive of OT). Even then, it took a miracle Taiwan Jones play for Houston to get in position to win.

2019 blown lead is Houston was because Josh Allen puked on his shoes in the second half and was throwing bombs to triple covered Pat DiMarco.

Just to be clear, I'm saying these guys all have significant warts that would be cause for pause. You said this about McD: "You probably need to keep him because the regular season results are so good but you pretty much know you're never winning a championship " What is the expectation for LaFleur to win a championship? 3-4 in the playoffs, with a large amount of that time being with an All-Time-Great MVP HoF QB. Scored 10 points vs the Niners in the divisional round with said QB with a first round bye in which Jimmy G had a passer rating of 57, 2 years removed from getting mortified by the Niners when Jimmy G threw 8 passes all game. Yeah, I'm thinking the guy who can't beat a Jimmy G-led team with a prime Aaron Rodgers ain't gonna get it done unless Jordan Love is the next Tom Brady. Like I said, put these SAME DUDES under the SAME MICROSCOPE. If McD is a proven loser because he can't beat Mahomes with Allen, why does LaFleur get a pass when he couldn't beat Jimmy G with Rodgers?

Exactly lmao. These folks caping for frauds like Matt LaFleur who routinely got embarrassed by his daddy when he had a far superior QB. Like I said, most of these coaches résumé’s burst into flames under the scope.

I am of the impression that Shanny had some input on trading 3 1sts to target Trey Lance at #3. I am also of the impression that he had some input on trading for Jimmy G and making him one of the highest paid QB’s in the league at the time. Do you have info that Lynch forced those decisions on him?

Shanny shares some blame, yeah. I mean, you’re the one who was arguing Eddy O should be an All-Pro because he was pick #9 and McD should be able to coach him up. Shouldn’t Shanny be able to coach up “his guy” at #3. “Ffs Shanny, make it work,” right?

Oh man, Shanny has no QB? Could that be because he drafted Solomon Thomas at #3 in 2017 instead of taking a QB? And then pinned his hopes to Jimmy G and gave him a big market contract after like 4 games? And then traded a king’s ransom for a complete bust in Trey Lance? All his fault and his own doing. He’s had 8 years to find a QB. LaFleur couldn’t make it to a Super Bowl with an actual active HoF QB who won MVP twice. And we are supposed to believe he is going to win a Super Bowl ever? put other HC’s under the same microscope you put on McD and their résumé’s wilt just as easy. If you were a Niners’ fan, Shanny’s seat would be hot. If you were a Packers fans, you’d say, “man, Jordan Love has to be BETTER than Prime MVP Rodgers to have a chance to win with this guy.” FOH yourself lol