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That’s just your opinion of opinions. See how silly this rabbit hole gets?

I promise you my dude, nobody wants the Bills WR’s to be a crappy group on paper. everyone here wants them to be awesome. If Coleman is JJ 2.0, the WR group will be good enough to my standards. If he is a normal rookie, I think this will be the weakest group since 2019 that Josh has had. I will enjoy the ride every Sunday, but there’s no reason to lie to ourselves either. I look around the league and I think the Bills are in the bottom 10 as it stands as a WR group. I pay attention to the entire NFL. Why would I pretend differently? Of what benefit is it to me? So we can all hold hands and sing about how great they are while we wait for the season to start? some folks enjoy the actual football aspect as well as being fans of the Bills. Other folks like the Bills exclusively. Neither is wrong for consuming their entertainment the way they would like, but asking folks to lie to themselves is bizarre. Are there facts about Nate or just opinions? I mean, CLAYPOOL has been shown the door by 3 franchises in 2 seasons. He’s a league minimum guy who by physical talent alone should be worth more in the league. But there can’t be facts that he’s probably gonna suck, just opinions, which are subjective. Right?

It’s the same logic, yeah? We don’t know anything about Nate in 2024. Who knows if he could be great? There are no facts about him sucking, just opinions, which are subjective.

Warren Sharp is a bad Bills fans too apparently. He will just never be happy. It’s about as close to a fact as you can get. The only way the WR room could get worse is if Coleman was proven mediocre commodity in the league. He is the only saving grace that he’s basically unproven. otherwise, why can’t we believe that maybe Nate Peterman can still be a franchise guy?

Release the Macken!

Lmao. Here’s the definition of bias. Here’s my reasons why it’s your failure as a fan to think the WR room sucks. bad take palooza CONTINUES

Tried to make it as simple and easy to understand as possible for you. Lol. I do love the idea of “dying on the hill” of reality. I know it’s hard for some to accept!

Folks have memory-holed Brady’s previous OC stint.

I only looked at losses because the argument at the time was that McD causes a lot of our losses in the 4th.

I somehow cannot find my original post on the subject, but my methodology was: Losses where the Bills entered the 4th trailing within 1 score and did not take the lead - Josh loss Losses where the Bills were in the 4th Q with a lead - McD loss the Jets game wouldn’t count under either criteria. There aren’t many losses so it’s kinda quick and easy to go through. Games where we got our doors blown off don’t count.

You may have, sure. I don’t think TBD at large would.

One day when I’m not on a beach chair I’ll crunch the numbers down and go through the gauntlet for Patty, Burrow, Lamar etc. on how many times their defense lost them a lead in the fourth, how many times they overcame it vs not, and how many times they failed to take a lead in the fourth. And then I’ll ratio them all up. I think the numbers will be shocking to you. Maybe I’ll do it later. you accept your BS remark was wrong, right? Or do you commonly say bullschitt to 100% correct facts? I’ll make the point one last time for you and @GoBills808 If I polled TBD today and asked: Which number is higher: Losses where Josh Allen failed to score to take the lead in the 4th Q since 2020 Losses where the defense failed to hold a lead in the 4th Q since 2020 IMO, the vote would be OVERWHELMING for option 2. Like probably 10:1. You may have voted option 2 yourself. Now you of course know thats 100% not true. If that’s not overrating, idk what is

He’s got great numbers in the fourth Q AND he doesn’t fall victim to McD bumbling the lead away nearly as much as you thought an hour ago. Point proven.

I don’t know. All I know is that you are accepting it is in fact a fact. That’s all I need.

It proves that Allen is overrated or McD is underrated. Probably a little of both.

Way more fumble/game hombre. Wasn’t that your ratio above? .500 in playoffs means he’s the greatest playoff QB alive lmao. Aikman is laughing somewhere rn.

Not under 2 minutes. In the 4th Q. we have more losses where Allen failed to get a lead in the fourth than where McD lost a lead lol.

That’s a diffeeent take. anyone arguing that there’s no way that the stat is true is still wrong.

Um, it’s a fact that preceded 2023. Like Allen’s whole tenure as a franchise QB. I went through every loss since 2020 Do you want me to link you the numbers? When I prove that Allen failed to get us a lead more than McD blew one, will you say uncle? I don’t mind. Like I said, it doesn’t surprise me that Bills fans don’t believe it. They think Allen walks on water and McD can’t tie his shoes.

No worries just include rushing TD’s but not fumbles . Superman best QB ever has 9 fumbles to Pat’s 11. In 8 less games lmao. This is your GOAT

I linked the convo so you can follow along better. I never said Allen has 4th Q garbage numbers. I said he lost more games by failing to get us a lead in the 4th more than McD lost a lead. It’s a fact. It’s great he has a nice QBR in the fourth. It doesn’t change the statement above. Back to the sandbox.

Mahomes clears. Completion% Mahomes TD/TO Mahomes Wins Mahomes Passer rating Mahomes QBR Mahomes Rings Mahomes GWD Mahomes 4QC Mahomes Patty Cake has 5 rushing tuddies too. Along with another 16 passing lmao.

Josh Allen has really good numbers in the 4th Q. Cool article that has nothing to do with your dubious “facts.” It’s 100% true. I can post you the data if you’d like.

You don’t have the facts. You are guessing at numbers that you vaguely remember. Outrageous argument. Incorrect. 0/10.

Find me the actual facts to dispute? Lmao, what is this.