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the networks never broadcast the anthem before that either you revisionist. That was commercial time. Seriously gtfo if you’re going to try to bull your way into a “point.” In fact broadcasters started showing the anthem more AFTER the kaepernick protests took wind, since then it became another reason to keep eyeballs on screen.

Stellar gaslighting

that’s fantastic.

no prob and I could be off-base with my recollections regarding their funding as well. I do know the Athletic had the money to go on an aggressive hiring spree, poaching writers from every significant market and if the rumors are true, paying over market value for that talent. This could be a course correction for them, exacerbated by COVID-19. Sucks in any case for them, and for those laid off by PSE.

also true. But from what I’ve seen and heard, hasn’t the Athletic received an astronomical amount of VC funding, as well as a surge in subscribers over the past year or so? Seems like even with thin margins, they’d have a lot of runway to weather this without cutting 8% of EEs and slashing pay across the board.

i would hope the league is preparing to make more overtures than just that, but it’s a slim hope.

that’s a bummer. And I assume Vogl will be in full CYA mode. Wouldn’t hurt to remind him of that past attitude though.

After Goodell’s statement today, seems like the league itself has rejected Drew’s position.

Anyone have any updates on the statuses of the Buffalo coverage people in particular?

you’re both right. League is woefully miles and miles behind the NBA. But considering how insular, how slow-moving these owners are in the NFL, I think it can be characterized as momentous.

yeah the bolded does ring a bell...can’t quite remember...

So true. Gotta remind myself to never ask the cops for any "favors." ? Fascinating power you possess, able to leap into the minds of these cops and clearly discern what they were "figuring."

another liberal conspiracy you say?! Man, they fooled me again. Guy is probably on Hillary’s payroll too.

your numbers are i think driven by simple necessity - how many elite QB prospects come into the league every year? Very few. Most teams simply aren’t in a position to replace these guys with perceived improvements in any given year.

and let’s not forget the aftermath of this either, where BPD PR released a statement claiming the man “slipped and fell.” Implying of course that it was just an unfortunate accident. No mention of contact from or even confrontation with the police on scene. Why would Mike DeGeorge omit those kinda important details in the initial statement? Either he decided to lie or the police at the scene lied to him (or intentionally omitted some “minor” details.)

Well you’re accusing me of fallacies as though I was making a formal argument. I wasn’t. I don’t like King for too many reasons to go into here. Only thing I shared was that opinion - of course I engaged in ad hominem insults, I intended to. King’s history in my mind justifies this. Plus, it isn’t as if King’s stupid blurb followed any logical rules or forms either, so no it didn’t occur to me to use any to call him wrong. as for “Diggs vs hypothetical rookie X Y or Z” no you’re right neither side can point and say well we know this so about him so we can definitely predict that. But only one side can support their stance with at least some prior relevant performance indicators. That’s Diggs. His past apparent attitude problems may be a problem, they may not. You seemed to be keenly focused on those attitude issues though, as if you think they are predictive. They don’t bother me so much.

For those asking, “what were the cops supposed to do?” How about this: safely restrain the man, zip tie him, and book him for disorderly conduct? Tell me on which planet it is a good idea to shove a geriatric who is holding things in both hands (helmet and phone) directly backwards whilst standing on concrete sidewalk? What’s the likely outcome of that action? Exactly what we saw.

@Reed83HOF mayor Brown going live on MSNBC in a couple minutes on this if you or anyone else is interested

this is it right here. Honestly the FotF stuff is enough for me to say Brees is a fraud.

PK is the guy making the argument, not passing along a message. He’s not a messenger. But, please, play semantics with me more. And of course the trade MAY end up being bad for the team - if Diggs gets seriously hurt or otherwise crashes and burns here then yeah, it ends up being a bad trade. I am judging the trade using the information we had at the time the trade was made, not engaging in future “what-ifs” like King and apparently you are. Hey if you don’t agree with my opinion of King fine just say so. He clearly still has fans; I certainly ain’t one of them. Don’t accuse me of engaging in “fallacies” though when you are playing 2nd grade semantics. That’s something a hack like King would do.

the 13th doesn’t concern me as much as the teams King put ahead of them (Raiders are exhibit A). Again, I hate Peter King. I hate King more than some of you hate Maddy Glab. King’s a league stooge and doesn’t particularly care to hide it anymore. There are better people out there to read, about analysis, predictions, whatever you want. Put PK to bed; god knows he’s tired carrying all that water for the league for so long.

it’s because phone-it-in personalities like peter king fall for the same mystery box fallacy that so many here do. There is absolutely no guarantee any of those receivers he named become as good or better than diggs. If fact, given how good diggs already is at 26, chances are none of them will. But King’s a lost soul at this point. For all those other outlets’ preseason rankings mean nothing, King’s mean less than nothing. Disappointing people still give him clicks 2 decades after he peaked.

Guys keep bumping this so I might as well - I’ve listened the past few days. Personally I am not a fan after listening to a couple full shows, but that doesn’t mean she’s completely unqualified for the job. Tasker’s not much better, btw.

pretty dang good turnout either way.

damn right well said.