Mikie2times

Apparently he didn't have shoulder pain when he knew where he wanted to go with it

Active only I would probably go with Taron Johnson. Maybe Hyde. That's about it, hard to even name a 3rd. I can't name one on offense. We have a lot of issues beyond the roster, but the roster is a pretty big part of it. At the end of the day it takes good players to win. We don't have as many left as people seem to think.

I guess it shouldn't really matter. How they have looked so far. Meat of the schedule up next. If we ever were going to make a run this year we would have needed to handle this part of our schedule. if we do so, I'm sure most of the concerns we have right now will be gone. If we don't, then we will have a very long offseason.

I agree. It's like we said, "see" two TE's, respect the laws of two TE's and play with 7 in the box! Then the NFL was like, no, those are two WR's. We will treat them like that until you show us we don't have to. This dates back to Beasley. As much as I hate saying it. That little slant he used to run where Josh would almost side arm it. It was 7-11 for 5-10 yards. We have no plays in our entire playbook that can replicate what that play did for us.

I was going to start a thread with this post, but it overlaps with several. I will just post it in this thread. If Josh has 3 plays to wheel and deal, he will likely convert one of them into a first down. This level of freedom has led to an elite offense the last few years but also a great deal of inconsistency. Beane was vocal about needing those short and intermediate threats to provide rhythm to our 3 point offense. We beefed up the line and drafted Kinkaid. We saw in several games to start the year Buffalo was going all in with the 12 personnel. From a Madden perspective such an approach should offer more consistency in short yardage but the reality is teams aren't modifying outside of Nickle when we go to this look so it's really just a heavier 3 WR set. One we have had some success running out of but not at the level you would expect if it was true 12 man personnel vs nickel or dime. We are several weeks into the season now so any inkling as to a surprise with our two TE sets is no longer present. We sort of hit rock bottom mid way or so last year after a really hot start. Perhaps we struggle to adjust after defenses first adjust to us. Like last year, after a hot start, we seem to be struggling a good deal. We really seem stuck right now on who we want to be. We went in with a focus on 12 personnel and running the ball, but we are still a soft team largely built on broken plays. If anything the attempts at running more conventional approach are limiting the amount of plays Josh has to be Josh. Allen not running with the ball is just the cherry on top of this crisis. It was an option Josh took consistently and would provide almost 3 first downs per game. It would convert 0 yardage and negative plays into positive yardage allowing us to rack up a few critical first downs while we figured out what we wanted to do. I wish an easy fix existed here. I highly doubt the Bills will go to the Josh Allen show. Meanwhile, as an offense, Buffalo and Allen have never really showed the ability to be a consistent on schedule, drive the field offense. We seem stuck trying to fit that mold without any options to consistently keep us ahead of the chains and our offense in some sort of rhythm. I'm hoping we see more no huddle next week as the no huddle does seem to give us a little bit of timing.

Team play our two TE's with Nickel or Dime. They have no respect for it being a bulked up package. They treat it as a 3 WR set and rightfully so.

We seem to at least have some rhythm

Good to see the ground work being laid.

I never said this entire conversation was about stat lines. It's part of it. Burrow has enjoyed more direct and postseason success which is part of it as well. (Time for somebody to come in and argue Burrow hasn't actually played that well in the postseason statistically while propping up Josh's 2021 performance). I have already heard this song and the 8 other songs like it. I'm actually pretty happy with what Josh has done this year. I don't want to spend time rehashing this conversation.

Nobody is trying to make the argument that winning% is ALL that matters. When the rest of the stats are relative as they're with all of the "best" then yes, winning% matters. Otherwise John Elway and Dan Marino would be best the best of all time. In the history of the NFL winning % in big games has been used to determine the elite from the not elite sinec the leagues inception. So in this context, it matters. It probably matters more than anything else. The stats are all but equal. Burrow has more playoff and one on one success. To say Allen is a clear anything over him is just not close.

You guys had a degree of credibility until you formed and argument around Dan Marino being the best QB of all time. Give me a break. Are we supposed to believe it was the strength of the Patriots and Chiefs teams that led to multiple championships 😂

So we should compare Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino on the same field as Montana, Brady, and Mahomes? Sorry, but that's not how this works. The QB is responsible for leading a team further when evaluating multiple years. Fair or not, that's how this works.

Josh is most the things said in this thread but this is just homer talk In the last two years: Burrow in the playoffs 5-2 vs Allen 2-2 and 1-0 vs Allen Burrow 69.3% vs Allen 63% completion % Burrow 69-26 TD / INT ratio vs Allen 71-29 TD / INT Burrow 22-10 vs Allen 24-9. It's basically a dead heat. Allen rushing yards and total prod vs Burrow completion % and postseason success is the variation and basically up to the beholder as far as separation. To say either has is head and shoulder better is foolish.

I’m not joining this argument because it’s already taken place about a dozen times. But you really need to take some basic math classes. Burrow has 48 starts vs 82 starts for Josh. Which makes most of the stats you’re hand picking still in favor of Burrow on a per game bases.

That sounds like my mom talking about her cat. It’s breathing! Look at her breath. Miraculous breaths of oxygen. Purring. What an amazing creature she is. Look at her sitting there. Existing in this world. The way she exists. So cute.

The responses here are funny. Any human on this planet is free and clear to ask whatever the “F” they want to be compensated. It’s up to the free market to make a decision if that request makes sense or not. Nobody ever got more by asking for less. He is an entertainer. Nothing more. He doesn’t have to show some sort of love for the game because that was the image of his predecessors. If that answer doesn’t work, again, free market.

I mean, it seems like it creates the same general torque on the body as a horse collar. I don’t blame them for wanting to limit it. If it actually works would surprise me. Like horse collars, these tackles are usually a result of angle or position. I don’t think a penalty can stop instincts.

I can think of half a dozen way worse than that, but ya...wow. Further, I don't think we have won one of those games in well over a decade

Holy fuggle crap horse

He just doesn’t care about waiting for a WR to get open. He will get killed waiting for it. Admirable trait but ya, you wonder if he can hold up.

They’re a very physical team that gives the faster soft teams like KC and us a lot of issues

They have three losses and we have two. I think it’s stands at days end.

Slow starter historically. Injury exacerbated that. Awful like play and no mobility the first few weeks

People that wrote off the Bengals are going to be in for a not so good surprise. They’re literally one game back behind us.

It's the NFL, which means any game can become a game. We saw the impact of travel on the Bills in London. Well, they very well could have some jet lag this week. It's not nearly as bad of a set up, but not exactly ideal. If anybody on this planet knows how to game plan against Josh and our offense it should be Dabs. He knows just about every strength and weakness of our roster. Then looking at the run game, Jones got knocked out in the middle of our defense and the Giants are expecting the the return of Barkley. So we should have some element of risk with the run game. This will be a heated one for both sides with the competitive nature of these men. So many familiar faces. We are a stunning -15.5 favorite. It shouldn't be a game but it could turn into one.