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Fun fact…we have Josh Allen, they do not.

A ton of WR, TE, and RB too. I feel the same way about WRs. The passing game is our identity. Keep stockpiling weapons for Allen. Dane and Tre can hold down the starting CB spots. Sign a vet until Tre is 100%.

I’m telling you all…Dane Jackson has 2 years under McD and his numbers aren’t bad at all. They like him.

I just think they like Dane a lot more than anyone wants to believe. There is a reason they haven’t signed a vet yet and I find it hard to believe that they would be this transparent if they did want a corner.

I agree with this. That’s another argument against a highly drafted corner. If they are indeed happy with Dane on one side of the field, then why burn a first rounder on a guy “just in case” Tre isn’t ready to start the season? I mean, once he’s back then what? We drafted a first round corner to hold it down until Tre is back? Sorry…I just can’t behind that logic.

Been saying this for a while, but the 1st round corner crowd conveniently ignores it. This staff seems to really like Dane Jackson. If you pair him with a vet or 2nd-3rd round rookie, we will be fine until Tre is 100%, which I believe will be sooner than most of us think. The history is there. This group has done it before, as Marino has mentioned. Marino is also VERY high on Cam Taylor-Britt in the 3rd. Oh by the way…his comp? James Bradberry. The very guy that the Panthers drafted in the 2nd round that year. Cam Taylor-Britt? Josh Williams? Martin Emerson?

Taylor-Britt is fast, long, and fits our scheme really well. Kyle Crabbs compares him to James Bradberry…a guy that a lot of us have been hoping the bills trade for. I’d love this guy in the third.

That’s what I thought…

Which team’s war room were you a part of and what year?

My argument is that if there is a tie between two prospects, they might err on the side of the non-DB due to the success rate with McD and DBs in his system.

McD literally made zero correct decisions in that 13 seconds. If you can’t see that, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I think that works in their favor though. They might not see it as urgent as other teams might. Do you agree with the statement that McD and his staff is pretty much the best In the league at developing DB’s? Heck, take Hyde and poyer as additional examples. Neither were anywhere near what they are today before McD coached them up.

I’m not even going to argue with you about this. I’m just not. It’s not worth my time. Just about everyone knows that McD is great in developing DB’s. He’s a defensive coach and his background is DB’s. In fact, he was DB himself.

I was talking about Beane. And it’s a fact he’s only ever once drafted a corner before round 5. That would be taron Johnson. I think there is more than enough evidence that McD and his staff can coach up DB’s better than most, if not the best. Just about everyone that talks about the bills in the media recognizes that.

I think there is an over abundance of evidence. The fact that he’s only ever drafted a corner before round 5 once. McD is the best in the league at developing corners. This started back in Carolina when he took a fifth rounder named Josh Norman and made him into arguably the best corner in the league while he was there.

Great points. Well done. I honestly can’t see McCreary in any scenario. His arms aren’t just short, they are REALLY short. I could see McDuffie only because of his scheme fit, but the arm length might have him off their board. I agree with Booth probably being the one that would make them consider using the 25th pick on a corner. I don’t want a corner at that spot, but he check almost all the boxes for what the Bills want. I think any other corner would be a slight reach and I don’t expect them to reach on a position that we have great success at developing. Josh Williams and Martin Emerson are REALLY interesting. They are the ones I would keep an eye on if we wait.

Spiller is interesting. He’s Joe Marino’s RB1. Marino thinks he would be a fantastic fit for the Bills.

Good write up. It’s interesting you single out McCreary and McDuffie as not being fits. I watched a podcast on YouTube last night where Greg Cosell names them as really good fits for the Bills. I will say…I agree with you that they don’t fit what the bills look for. The bills like guys with elite traits and I’m sure they view their sub-30” arms as slight red flags. They don’t scream outside corner to me. I’m Mccreary’s case, his arms are absurdly short for a corner…sub-29”. I really think value might match up in the 3rd or 4th for us. Almost anyone with any knowledge knows that McD and his staff is the best in the game at developing corners. A 3rd or 4th round guy like the ones we mentioned could end up being a stud in a year or two.

Ok…I agree with this. What are your thoughts on McDuffie and mccreary? Do you think it’s possible that we might wait till rounds 3 or 4 for guys like Josh Williams, Zion McCollum, Martin Emerson, etc? Beane has shown a lot of faith in Mcd’s ability to develop corners and I can see that faith continue with a mid round pick that allows them to look at other positions with their top couple picks. Ok…he just answered my question…thanks for chiming in…

What do you mean by this? You would take McDuffie over the receiver?

Exactly. This is who breece Hall is compared to. Nobody would turn that down.

I’ve seen a scouting report that states he doesn’t have good recovery speed. That means once he’s burnt, he stays burnt. Not exactly something that makes me feel warm and fuzzy with receivers like waddle and hill in the division.

You just answered my question… It’s an honest question. We are all message board guys with opinions. I didn’t mean anything bad by it.

No offense, but I’ll take the real scout’s word for it. Do you do it for a living?

Not cool.