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You like contradicting yourself don’t you? In one of your recent posts you literally boast about how deep this draft is at high end corner talent and then you say this…haha. Wow…

We can agree to disagree on this. By this logic, it’s quite possible that the running backs that Beane is interested in are gone at 57 too. Meanwhile, a guy like Cam Taylor-Britt, Martin Emerson, Coby Bryant, or Alontae Taylor might still be there. Again…there is also a chance to get a good corner later on as well.

You mention 2 guys on deals that expire at season’s end. This has been part of my argument. They have very few “weapons” that are locked up after this season. All the longer contracts are on the defensive side except for a select few…

So you are just assuming that any corner will be rated higher than an RB. I disagree. I think the bills are very much in the market for offensive weapons and arent as urgent into getting a “top” corner as most of you are hoping. Beane has pretty much said that. However, you have to be living in a cave if you can’t see all the activity around WR, TE, and RB visits this off-season. So you would admit then that you can also get a corner later in the draft?

You’ll trust Beane, but you aren’t on board with a WR? I’m no way shape or form with they NOT go RB at some point. I think it will be sooner than most expect. I think that’s been brewing for a year now with the rumors about ettienne last year, the pre draft visits, the attempt at signing McKissic, and mcd’s recent quotes. The same people that think it’s a reach to take a RB are fine with taking the possible fifth or sixth CB off the board at 25. Talk about reaching…

Clearly? Ok…

Why do some have Andrew Booth slipping out of the first round when so many on here want to trade up a little to make sure we get him? Different analysts have different rankings…

It’s interesting you bring up Taylor. Hall has been compared to him on more than one occasion. His production in college, his usage, and his amazing combine reeks Jonathan Taylor. One of the same knocks on Taylor is also a knock on Hall…many fear the wear and tear in college will catch up with him. How has that worked for Taylor? Or Tariq Woolen or Cam Taylor-Britt. The point is…we do not “need” to take a corner in round 1 to get an immediate upgrade. I think most people are so used to defense in round 1 no matter what that they can’t even wrap their minds around possibly picking an offensive player.

I totally agree. This seems to have been brewing since last year with all the rumors. A dynamic RB would put this offense over the top. Hall has it all…he’s fast, big, durable, and has good hands in the passing game. Najee Harris was selected last year with the 24th pick. We are in a way better situation this year than the Steelers were last year. We have our long term qb and our oline is set this year. They had uncertainty at qb and with their oline and took Harris anyways. He worked out. No reason to think hall wouldn’t have a similar effect for this offense.

100% agree. Hall will be long gone by the time 57 rolls around and it might cost a lot to trade up to get him in 2. If they want him I think they should take him at 25 or trade just outside the first and hope to land him there. How many weapons on one year deals do you want? Good grief…

Been what I’ve been saying for a while now. They don’t seem to be nearly as panicked as most of the fans. They seem to like Dane Jackson and I’ll bet Tre is back sooner than most think. They also have an amazing track record of developing DBs.

I would love to have someone like Jameson Williams or Garrett Wilson on a 5th year. I just don’t think they will be there. I also think if the Bills love Hall that he also won’t be there if they wait till 57.

I think you are completely underselling last year that the bills were reportedly very high on Ettienne, this year when they made a play for McKissic, and all the predraft visits they’ve had with running backs. They want one. Period. It’s not an opinion. Just look at what has been going on. They will add one. They know how close they are and McD wants a running game. A guy like Hall at 25 would bring this run game instant credibility. You do realize we can just as easily draft a bust at another position right?

This is a great point. You are correct. The sweet spot for the top RBs has been early 2nd. Our 1st rounder is a late 1st anyways, so if you want Hall you will need to take him at 25, trade back to the top of 2, or trade up into the early 40s.

Give me the top RB in the draft over the fifth or sixth CB any day of the week. Hall would take us to another level. We can get a corner later.

I disagree. Yes, they are tied at the hip, but Beane has given McD more than enough talent to win with. He’s done his job. McD is the one that didn’t do a single right thing in the last 13 seconds of the chiefs game. That will follow him very closely this year if he doesn’t get over the hump.

But that doesn’t fit the narrative of the “keep stacking the defense” crowd…

Well said. I’ve been saying this over and over…I think the staff REALLY likes Dane Jackson and doesn’t feel the “need” as much as posters on this board. Give me the WR all day long. The passing game is our identity. Keep the cupboard full.

Did you even bother to watch the super bowl?

Totally agree. Joe B was on a podcast the other day fully admitting they have spent a lot on defense and it might be time to add long term to the offense. People get too worked up about guys like crowder, Johnson, saffold, and Howard. They are on one year deals and each of those positions can be addressed for the long term…

Fun fact…we have Josh Allen, they do not.

A ton of WR, TE, and RB too. I feel the same way about WRs. The passing game is our identity. Keep stockpiling weapons for Allen. Dane and Tre can hold down the starting CB spots. Sign a vet until Tre is 100%.

I’m telling you all…Dane Jackson has 2 years under McD and his numbers aren’t bad at all. They like him.

I just think they like Dane a lot more than anyone wants to believe. There is a reason they haven’t signed a vet yet and I find it hard to believe that they would be this transparent if they did want a corner.

I agree with this. That’s another argument against a highly drafted corner. If they are indeed happy with Dane on one side of the field, then why burn a first rounder on a guy “just in case” Tre isn’t ready to start the season? I mean, once he’s back then what? We drafted a first round corner to hold it down until Tre is back? Sorry…I just can’t behind that logic.