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Been saying this for a while, but the 1st round corner crowd conveniently ignores it. This staff seems to really like Dane Jackson. If you pair him with a vet or 2nd-3rd round rookie, we will be fine until Tre is 100%, which I believe will be sooner than most of us think. The history is there. This group has done it before, as Marino has mentioned. Marino is also VERY high on Cam Taylor-Britt in the 3rd. Oh by the way…his comp? James Bradberry. The very guy that the Panthers drafted in the 2nd round that year. Cam Taylor-Britt? Josh Williams? Martin Emerson?

Taylor-Britt is fast, long, and fits our scheme really well. Kyle Crabbs compares him to James Bradberry…a guy that a lot of us have been hoping the bills trade for. I’d love this guy in the third.

That’s what I thought…

Which team’s war room were you a part of and what year?

My argument is that if there is a tie between two prospects, they might err on the side of the non-DB due to the success rate with McD and DBs in his system.

McD literally made zero correct decisions in that 13 seconds. If you can’t see that, then I don’t know what to tell you.

I think that works in their favor though. They might not see it as urgent as other teams might. Do you agree with the statement that McD and his staff is pretty much the best In the league at developing DB’s? Heck, take Hyde and poyer as additional examples. Neither were anywhere near what they are today before McD coached them up.

I’m not even going to argue with you about this. I’m just not. It’s not worth my time. Just about everyone knows that McD is great in developing DB’s. He’s a defensive coach and his background is DB’s. In fact, he was DB himself.

I was talking about Beane. And it’s a fact he’s only ever once drafted a corner before round 5. That would be taron Johnson. I think there is more than enough evidence that McD and his staff can coach up DB’s better than most, if not the best. Just about everyone that talks about the bills in the media recognizes that.

I think there is an over abundance of evidence. The fact that he’s only ever drafted a corner before round 5 once. McD is the best in the league at developing corners. This started back in Carolina when he took a fifth rounder named Josh Norman and made him into arguably the best corner in the league while he was there.

Great points. Well done. I honestly can’t see McCreary in any scenario. His arms aren’t just short, they are REALLY short. I could see McDuffie only because of his scheme fit, but the arm length might have him off their board. I agree with Booth probably being the one that would make them consider using the 25th pick on a corner. I don’t want a corner at that spot, but he check almost all the boxes for what the Bills want. I think any other corner would be a slight reach and I don’t expect them to reach on a position that we have great success at developing. Josh Williams and Martin Emerson are REALLY interesting. They are the ones I would keep an eye on if we wait.

Spiller is interesting. He’s Joe Marino’s RB1. Marino thinks he would be a fantastic fit for the Bills.

Good write up. It’s interesting you single out McCreary and McDuffie as not being fits. I watched a podcast on YouTube last night where Greg Cosell names them as really good fits for the Bills. I will say…I agree with you that they don’t fit what the bills look for. The bills like guys with elite traits and I’m sure they view their sub-30” arms as slight red flags. They don’t scream outside corner to me. I’m Mccreary’s case, his arms are absurdly short for a corner…sub-29”. I really think value might match up in the 3rd or 4th for us. Almost anyone with any knowledge knows that McD and his staff is the best in the game at developing corners. A 3rd or 4th round guy like the ones we mentioned could end up being a stud in a year or two.

Ok…I agree with this. What are your thoughts on McDuffie and mccreary? Do you think it’s possible that we might wait till rounds 3 or 4 for guys like Josh Williams, Zion McCollum, Martin Emerson, etc? Beane has shown a lot of faith in Mcd’s ability to develop corners and I can see that faith continue with a mid round pick that allows them to look at other positions with their top couple picks. Ok…he just answered my question…thanks for chiming in…

What do you mean by this? You would take McDuffie over the receiver?

Exactly. This is who breece Hall is compared to. Nobody would turn that down.

I’ve seen a scouting report that states he doesn’t have good recovery speed. That means once he’s burnt, he stays burnt. Not exactly something that makes me feel warm and fuzzy with receivers like waddle and hill in the division.

You just answered my question… It’s an honest question. We are all message board guys with opinions. I didn’t mean anything bad by it.

No offense, but I’ll take the real scout’s word for it. Do you do it for a living?

Not cool.

Ok…this is a good point. But there are a lot of people blowing off about corner having to be the pick no matter what cause it’s our biggest need. Many want to trade up, which i think would be downright foolish considering what is asked of the corners in this defense. Not to mention, that McD is the best in the sport at developing corners. As for Andrew Booth…his measurables are elite, but read what is said about his weaknesses in this scouting report: https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/andrew-booth-jr-scouting-report-2022-nfl-draft-clemson-tigers-football/ To sum it up…he is prone to getting burnt deep and doesn’t have great recovery speed, which means he “stays burnt”. I’m sorry guys, but that’s the gist of my argument. Why spend a first rounder on a corner, when most of these elite receivers are constantly beating them over the top? It makes no sense to me. Keep stacking the offense and let other teams spend high picks on corners that can’t keep up with our speed. it’s what the chiefs have done and part of what has made them successful.

Why? Because it doesn’t fit the corner crowd’s narrative. You are correct though. We had a 7th rounder and UDFA playing corner for a large part of the season and they did fine. I’m sick of hearing about corner. There are a select few on this board that make it unbearable for the rest of us. Those that can see the bigger picture knows the way to build a winning football team is adding to the offense. A handful of cheap one year deals doesn’t “fix” anything. We need to get younger and cheaper and make life easier on our franchise quarterback. It CAN be addressed. Many of us are just saying it doesn’t HAVE to be in the 1st round.

McCreary? The guy with the stubby arms? Haha. No way.

Again…the coaches screwed those 13 seconds up more than anything. They literally did nothing right. The defense was the unit on the field, so it’s easy for people that can’t see the big picture to cherry pick them. Take that game out of the equation. In fact, ignore everything from the second half of the Bucs game to the end of the season. What was happening for the 5 or 6 games leading up to that. Allen was running for his life cause he had zero blocking and pressure was immediately coming right into his face. Singletary was the slow running back that he is to this day. The defense was playing lights out as it did all season…thus the number one ranking. Our offense could only muster 6 points against a Jags team that had quit on its coach. The offense was THE reason we didn’t play the Chiefs in Buffalo last year. All they needed was one TD against the worst team in the league and they couldn’t get that accomplished. This. There are several corners that we could target later that could be difference makers. I like Taylor-Britt, Josh Williams, Woolen, etc. It doesn’t have to be a first round corner. We can take offense in the first and address corner later.

It boggles my mind how the corner jockeys can’t see this. Our offense was terrible for a large stretch this season. Allen did all he could do to keep us in games. Our NUMBER ONE defense did their jobs, but the offense cost us a higher seed in the playoffs. Im not going to pretend that those issues might not pop up again this season if we don’t get better across the line and at running back. I don’t trust a few games at the end of the year to be the new norm with this offense. Singletary is still slow. The line is still gonna struggle. Allen will still be running for his life. Unless we continue to build the offense with guys on more than one year deals.