Ethan in Cleveland

He almost beat KC on the road in the playoffs. Then played the following year injured with a bad shoulder. Cleveland was in a tough spot. He had done ok but certainly not well enough to get a huge extension. I don't fault them from moving on. If he was willing to take a 1 or 2 year prove it deal then he'd probably still be in Cleveland

Larry Allen Madden once said he was watching 3 players in the same game that he thought we're the best of all time at their positions - Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, and Larry Allen I know he is a HOF player but he was a guard. So perhaps that is close enough to unheralded

Herbert has had terrible coaching. Can't argue with his resume but the question is not who has been the best QB it is who are the best QBs now. With Harbaugh dude is going to be a star. I've defended Jackson for several years on here. He is not the #2 QB in the league despite the MVPs but he is far better than most on here rate him. For the record if Burrow didn't have the wrist issue he would be my #3. We should ask this question again in a month. #1 and 2 may flip if Josh keeps playing clean. And 3-10 may be very different

Herbert is my #3 right now. Burrow #4 Stroud #5 Prescott #6 Jackson#7 I can't judge Purdy in that system Are Mayfield and Murray in the conversation for lower end of top 10???

Good thread Even before I moved out west, the Seahawks were one of my favorite teams when they played in the AFC West. Always liked Dave Kreig. Guy played 19 years.

Next time someone describes a GM as a genius....

I love this place Before the Miami game how many posts were there that Tua was overrated and that Miami projected to win the AFC East was a joke. Then when Bills beat them, and you see son many posts in here that Bills beat a good to great Miami team on the road...

I know

I was at the playoff loss in Jax. If Shady had been healthy they would have won. TT played one of his worst games. Didn't even do much with his legs. Missed a wide open TD late in the game.

Omg...take the tin foil hat off That wasn't a hail Mary That was obvious DPI

Seriously . Just wait one more sec and hit the ball when it gets there

Cmon man. He clobbered him from behind. If that was Coleman trying to catch that ball you would think it was a PI

Watch the play before you start going into conspiracy mode

He got there early...terrible play Hate only rushing 3 there

Wow I've seen far worse not called

It was a bad throw

Oh man that was almost a pick

It was a pretty sweet call. Looked like he was going to double Chase. They sent an overload blitz and the double team probably made Burrow look to the left first.

Game over

One drop away from a win

Hope so

This has the makings for a classic trap let down game Jags look terrible Bills coming off huge win National TV Three huge road games after this game The script couldn't be any more classic Seeing what Cardinals are doing today maybe this defense is special however Hopefully McDermott finds a way to have them prepared

So many upsets today! So glad I don’t feed my gambling addiction

Pierce with the McD defense TO

Seachickens win!!!