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Currently discussed that in another thread who I personally feel the blame of that game is on. I also didn’t dispute there have been games where his turnovers have aided in the reason for us losing but with the game on the absolute line he rarely turns it over to end the game was the point. I’m sure a vast majority of Bills fans are comfortable with Josh driving for the game winner. Curious as to the percentage of fumbles lost is of him as a runner or a strip sack… When the guy has been the only viable rusher on the team for several years fumbles are bound to happen.

He turns the ball over but scores an awful lot to compensate that. Very few times has a turnover of his sealed the game as a loss. Bugger picture in those games? Sure, it probably aided in a loss however I’ll take the probability of him doing what he does to equate to a win over the probability of a loss.

You talk to another teams fans and Josh is brought up, the majority think he’s the real deal. Weird how some of our fans won’t accept that. He has flaws but the talent is off the charts.

Gibran Hamdan x13 Hanging with 10. They won’t get fined. Shares in Scotts Lawn too

But that is situational football? No? You, at worst have a shorter field or you end up with a Safety or TD like they did in probabilities. That one choice of going for it on 4&1 to goal was a win. Either way, the events immediately after that ridiculous 4&18 by Jefferson netted them 6 points… Different way of looking at it I guess. 🤷‍♂️

You’re missing the point with most fans and posters sentiments… No one is piling it on him for the roster and players he has. It’s what he’s done with it is where the problem lays. Mistakes like a drop, missed tackle or bonehead penalty are one thing but they seemingly almost happen every single game; whether we are playing a Champion or contender. For consistency purposes that does fall on coaching, him or his staff.

Personally, I can’t put that Colts WC anywhere on a list. However I will give him some credit for the defensive call that lead to a game winning pick 6. Getting us into the playoffs after the drought is definitely a good shout for #1 Well done.

Dude, I’ll be dead or retires by the time that happens… can’t believe the guy is still playing. Major props to him and his longevity of a career.

Why so serious….?

Agree. Can’t see the Pats not being top 3, let alone top 5. Their only hope is if Chicago decide to draft a QB and teams scramble for the next guy available and have Harrison Jr. be there. I think he goes in the first 5 pics, that’s without question. Let’s just hope they don’t find a QB to get him the ball on top of that…

It’s tragic. I mentioned a story in a thread with similar experiences. Pretty sad people feel the need to act like that to anyone who, in the bigger picture, shares a common interest.

Think that’s a good shout. Bravo

Odunze wouldn’t be a bad shout. Doubt he goes out of the top 15 though. Likely we draft an OLineman, maybe Tackle, or a DB

Age and $’s are the only reason to go with AJE. Still a work in progress whereas Floyd has proven to be a consistent pass rusher. More money but my vote would go to Lenny.

Ok, not technically. But they did… They got the fumble recovery for a TD after we stopped them on 4th and goal after Cook was ruled not to have a TD. 🤷‍♂️

You’re right. The game shouldn’t have been in that position but we were due to other players; you and @DrDawkinstein are correct about that. if there’s blame on one guy for one singular play for us to come out with a loss, it’s that Cam Lewis play. Guy was on #18’s shoulders 😂

It sucked but I disagree given the Eagles had an interception and a fumble that started us out in their side of the field. As a result we scored 10 points from those turnovers. The throw and time in the game hurt more but Philly still gave us two scores.. Officiating and players not being on the same page cost us more points than Josh’s INT.

Rough. Bleeding rough.

Yes, that’s the case with a few losses we’ve had but if Cam doesn’t try and tackle Jefferson and instead makes a play on the ball, you’re never on the end of a loss there.

The blame on that one goes to Cam Lewis IMO.

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I wonder if Flowers or Addison fell to 25 would we have traded up for Kincaid still, stand pat or trade up to 25 for one of those 2? Both are having great starts to their career. Especially Addison. Dude crushed it as a #1 option for a rookie when Jefferson hit the injury list. Yeah, the speed that was being talked about with Harty definitely isn’t there. You’re right on the money with “average”. At least to me.

I don’t think they fail to address that. The narrative is always going to be that your QB or offense wins you the game in todays NFL unless it comes down to a 4th down stop or a created turnover on a game tying/winning drive, the spotlight and flowers won’t go to a defense. Most of the talking points on several shows is that Josh was the better QB but the Eagles the better team overall… Something every Bills fan knew going into that game.

Dan O highlighted it best about that last drive for the game tying FG… they gave Philly everything a team wants to do on a quick drive; quick boundary plays from the placed hash mark. The only time they make a play on those throws was to stop the clock on an incompletion, which you don’t want on 3rd down in possible FG territory when the team has no TO’s left. Unlucky for that final pass. Bleeding ugly with the rest.

I think that is the biggest problem as they are really key to his defense. There’s a few decent options in FA this coming year that I’d like to see an attempt at signing; CJ Gardner Johnson Antoine Winfield Jr. Jordan Whitehead Kyle Dugger Chuck Clark Xavier McKinney