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LT Wills is back, Conklin is out.

Hunt is out, they put him on IR this week. D'Ernest Johnson starts, with John Kelly, who was great in the preseason, as the backup, and Demetric Felton as a 3rd down/receiver. Johnson has played pretty well when given the chance, he just get next to no carries with Chubb and Hunt in normally.

The dude had a full handful of jersey on his back. Can't be an easier call.

Watt should be suspended for the forearms to the head last night. He wasn't going for the ball. The hit to gut he may have been, but the 2 forearms he was not. Pittsburgh has been dirty for years, but always play it off as "being physical." Hines Ward is the dirtiest WR I have ever seem, and James Harrison is close with Burfict for the dirtiest player I've seen.

Mayfield's MRI came back bad enough he's getting a second opinion. Being that the Browns play Thursday night, it sure looks like it'll be Keenum this week. The Browns are decimated by injuries to major players. Chubb, Hunt now, Wills, Conklin, Landry, Beckham, Newsome, Janovich, Owusu-Koramoah, and Walker are starters who have all missed games, and Mayfield has been injured since Week 2

Rudolph is hot garbage. Mayfield is struggling for sure, but Rudolph is bad enough they'd rather play Ben at 60% and $40M this year.

The Browns never offered him $40M.

It's under 2 minutes. That's how it works.

Obviously, you take away their best defender and offensive weapon and that changes everything. And yes, I'd bet on Buffalo 10 out of 10 times now, but my point still stands. You can't say "Pittsburgh had all offseason to prepare for Buffalo, that's why they won" when the exact argument could be made for every week 1 game, and for Buffalo in that game as well. I hate Pittsburgh, and I wish Buffalo had beat them 50-0.

Buffalo is obviously the much better team, but that's the dumbest argument I've heard in a while. Buffalo had the same amount of time to prepare as Pittsburgh did.

Or, he can not sign it until the deadline. They either have to recind or hope they have a partner lined up who will pay Trubisky top 5 money, which no one will.

He put his shoulder straight into his head. It was deliberate. Both offenses look bad so far.

I honestly didn't know that. I respected Ralph for voting no to the move. He and the Rooneys were the only ones to do so. I hate Pittsburgh but will always respect the Rooneys solely for that. All his receivers minus Andrews are hurt, and he has no one else to run the ball. If he is the entire run game, he'll be on IR with them in no time.

They stole my team. This x10000.

Zero chance Hoyer isn't on the active roster by game day. He's just not cutting players subject to waivers for now. Every team does it.

I didn't say that the touchdown to interception ratio is the only factor. In my last post I said that it was one of many factors. I watched Trubisky and Minshew play several times and to me Minshew is the better player. I see tons of people post on this board all the time about how terrible Josh Allen's supporting cast was the 1st year and that was a big reason why he struggled so much. So obviously it is a big factor in your play and your development. Trubisky to me is a dime a dozen quarterback. He's got some legs to him and some physical ability but he struggles when asked to process must information.

Honestly, I don't know. Cam looks like him arm is shot, so it's hard to say. He used to be able to run a lot, and he can some, but not like he could when he entered the league. Also, Trubisky is a lot younger, so he COULD improve, while Cam probably won't. So younger Cam, for sure, but Cam not, probably not. You guys seems to think I am saying Trubisky is hot garbage. I'm not. I honestly think he is an average QB at best, and one who won't lead you anywhere good if forced to play much. But that's probably the case with most backups, hence them being backups.

Wins and losses are a factor, but the entire team is a factor. You can't look at one team that is above average, and another that is worst in the league, and say that the quarterback on the better team means he is the better quarterback. Yes, there are TONS of factors to consider, and wins/losses is one, and TD/INT ratio is one. Talent of the other players, and supporting cast is a HUGE one. Trubisky had a far superior supporting cast than say Minshew. Also, Trubisky was put back in as the starter over Foles because Foles got injured, not because Trubisky deserved it. The game that Foles got hurt, they played Tyler Bray, not Trubisky. Trubisky then started the next week.

Wins and loses are a factor of the equation, not the entire thing. You put Trubisky on Jacksonville and they are just as bad or worse. And Foles won a SB as a backup, and suddenly Trubisky is better. Give me a break man. He unseated Trubisky as the starter just last year.

It's already being reported Lauletta will be released tomorrow.

The Browns aren't loaded at DT though. He just wasn't good.

Minshew had 37 TDs to 11 INTs on the worst team in football. Don't try to act like he's some garbage player. Straight up, given the choice, I take Minshew every time. If you would have asked anybody on this board last year if you wanted to Trubisky on your roster the answer would have been no. He isn't suddenly some great quarterback because hes on tge Bills roster.

Lauletta looked decent the 1st 2 games, then was pretty awful last night. He'll be lucky to hang around as a backup somewhere.

I think the AFC North would have to be considered as well. Both Baltimore and Pittsburgh were top of the league for years. Makes it tough on a rookie HC to come in and succeed when you are facing them 4 times a year with almost guaranteed to be a worse team. Now with Cleveland being good as well, it would be tougher, though I do think Pittsburgh slides a bit this year.

So how the rookies fared in preseason means nothing, but how Trubisky fared in preseason is somehow super important? Trubisky was an average starter at best his whole career, has a good preseason for Buffalo against the same backups at best, and then suddenly is the best backup QB in the league. He may be, but there are plenty of other guys in the conversation. And while record matters, it certainly isn't the only factor. Minshew was a much better QB on a MUCH worse team. Chicago while Trubisky was there was always a decent team. Not world beaters, but they couldn't count on him to carry them at all. Good was probably the wrong word. Average. Decent. Whatever you want to say. Just as good as Trubisky was in Chicago. Not great, not terrible.