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At this point, that's what I'm hoping for. Then get Matt Ryan to Cleveland for a couple years while grooming a young QB. Watson scares me with the baggage and potential suspension. And hopefully deal Mayfield to Seattle since they alienated him.

I think there are plenty that would if you go back a year and not all the off the field stuff comes into play. Obviously given the last year then I agree with you that no one would take Watson over Allen. And as a Browns fan I'm not sure I want to make the trade for Watson just simply given what it will take to get him. Especially since there's still a decent chance he gets suspended for part of this year or next.

Now it's reported 4 years, $84 million for Kirk. That's insane.

That happens a lot. Diggs screamed at, ironically, Kevin Stefanski on the sidelines the last year he was there. And he complained almost that entire year. Diggs seems to be a good dude. But it's always funny to see how hypocritical people are when it comes to guys on their team.

I just mean, don't criticize one guy while declaring your guy a "leader" and talking him up when he literally did the exact same thing. Diggs in Minnesota was worse than anything Cooper did in Dallas. Diggs point blank said he was a bad teammate in Minnesota.

If it's "your" guy, it's fine. Just admit it.

I'd bet almost anything they restructure Cooper too, so I really doubt it'll be a $20 million hit this year.

Diggs did the exact same thing in Minnesota though. Complained about his QB. Was disgruntled.

Yeah, for 1 more year. And once the FA TE's start signing, I bet it's not quite as "crazy" then. But Cleveland runs 2 TE sets more than any team in the league. Dude, they gave up a 5th, and have no baggage on the contract. They could literally cut him the day after the league year and be out $0. Dallas absorbs all the guaranteed money. And Landry is allowed to seek a trade, but they were also discussing him being back at a reduced salary. I love Landry, but he isn't worth $15 million a year. Plus, he is 100% a possession receiver. Cooper isn't.

Njoku said he wanted to return. And he improved his blocking a lot last year, so he'll play a lot more I'd bet. Blocking has always been his issue.

Yeah, convert let's say $15 million into a bonus and you can spread it out over the 3 years left. Gives you $10 million right away.

Landry will be gone, or small chance of big restructure, and they'll probably restructure a few others to free up some more.

Nothing to do with a "word marathon." You have your opinions about the timing. I feel it's just as likely that Putin got away with a lot leading up to this because Trump was practically licking his boots his entire presidency and ignoring everything he was doing. He ignored our own intelligence agencies reporting bounties on our soldiers and trusted Putin instead. Either way, Putin has been preparing for this a lot longer than 15 months. You don't have 200,000 troops and war vehicles at the ready just because. And its was ignored entirely but the US, and Europe.

To be fair, Trump plays whatever side of people he benefits the most from. He was buddy buddy with Putin while President, and now he says he would stand strong against Putin. It's all a crock. Putin was building up his military. Just so happens that Biden was President once he felt strong enough to attack. But it's looking like Putin misjudged Ukraine. But Trump being gone had nothing to do with it either way.

I'm not pretending anything. Just no way to know what would happen. I'm not Trump fan by any means.

Sure, their policies can do a lot of things. But this isn't just a USA problem. This is a worldwide problem. And again, prices were going up no matter what. The Trump prices were greatly influenced by the pandemic, and as the world got more back to normal, then prices had to go up. It's always kind of funny, because people want pipeline work, but low oil prices causes pipeline work to stop, but then they complain about oil prices being high as well. Obviously there is a happy medium there, but locally oil and gas companies have been dead for 2 years now. Huge layoffs and shutdowns. Now they are hiring and working again. But Biden!

Care to explain what information brings you to this conclusion?

Just going to ignore that the world was in a pandemic which shut down most worldwide travel, and even a lot of local travel as people worked from home? Do you not remember that there was such an oil glut that companies were paying other to take their oil because there was no storage, and what storage was available cost more than the oil was worth? Prices were bound to go up, no matter who is President. Presidential policies can change prices to an extent, but this narrative that Biden somehow controls gas prices is absurd. Also, oil companies were making record profits last year, before this huge increase, yet somehow no one seems to think that maybe they're ripping us off. In 2007ish, oil was $160 a barrel and gas was $4 a gallon. Accounting for inflation, that would be $223 oil now. Seeing as how oil is $115 a barrel right now, which is equivalent to $84 in 2006, and prices are still at $4, something seems a bit off don't you think?

His cap number for 2022 went down.

This is 100% true. I grew up closer to Pittsburgh than Cleveland, and 95% of the people I grew up with were "diehard" Steelers fans.......until they had a down year. Suddenly, its was like a ghost town when it came to football. No gear, no flags, no trash talk, nothing. They're all huge fans until it's tough.

I confused as to who they went with as "big stars"? They traded for OBJ, so that's definitely one, but most of the other "star" players have been drafted by Cleveland, or picked up on the cheap. Garrett, Chubb, Ward, Bitonio, Teller, Newsome are all players that are "star" or close to it that were drafted or acquired cheaply. Several are more expensive now on their 2nd contracts, but obviously that's the goal for almost every team. Even Clowney was signed relatively cheaply, and he produced, so now it's a debate on whether to resign him or not. Landry has a bigger contract than his production warrants, but they can get out of it now for net to nothing. If Cleveland cuts Landry and Hooper, which seems likely, they have around $62 million in cap even with all the guys above signed. They would then had needs at WR, LE, and DT as major points to address via FA and the draft. Njoku sure seems like he will be back, so I don't thing TE is a major need between him and Bryant.

Since when is Hunt a smurf? He's 220.

The difference is Hayes hit an opposing player, completely unprovoked, on the field, during the game. Howard obviously make a dumb choice in escalating the situation, but the other 2 coaches grabbed him, and also grabbed 2 of his players. So stop comparing the 2. Howard deserved to be punished, and he was.

Woody Hayes punched an opposing PLAYER, during a game, on the field. Completely different situation. Howard was suspended, and rightfully so. Assault? You kidding me Clark?

Which QB is Washington trading up for?