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Ray Rice got 2 games, so it didn't "start" there. It was upgraded to "indefinite" but was later overturned. He was then blacklisted from the NFL, but not because of punishments/suspensions.

Allen is near the top of the league right now, but he is a LONG way from GOAT status. Not even in the remote discussion at this point. Brady had 2 Superbowls in 4 seasons, and he didn't play in one of those seasons. He added a 3rd Superbowl in his 5th season.

Stats are just a reference point. It's one way to compare to other QBs, but obviously not the only way.

So you say he was on a garbage team, then dismiss that he was playing on a garbage team the rest of the post. Cousins has had elite WRs his entire time in Minnesota, and usually has 2 elite WRs between Diggs/Thielen/Jefferson. Watson has 3 of his 4 season with QBR over 100, and his other was 93 or so, so it wasn't like this is a one time thing. He is second all time in QB rating, granted in only 4 seasons. 106.6 rating, 7TD/3INT with a 68.2% completion percentage while leading. Granted not as good as when behind, but again, look at his supporting cast. A bunch of average to below average players and Will Fuller, who is hurt ALL the time.

When you are on a bad team you are behind a lot. Those QBs also tend to throw a lot of interceptions, which he did not. When it gets late in the game teams will go to prevent defense but if you're down 10 points in the 2nd quarter they're not just gonna let you walk down the field. And like I said before, his supporting cast was absolute trash.

At the end of 2020, Watson had the highest QBR in the league, with a much worse supporting cast than most of the guys you listed. Led the league in yards, and also had 33/7 TD to INT. Obviously none of that excuses anything he is accused of, but let's stop acting like he was a middle of the road QB before all this.

The Browns have the most cap space in the league.

Yes, Dante Stallworth. The big thing there was the person Stallworth hit was in the middle of a large highway in the middle of the night. But Stallworth did spend a short time in jail and have a lot of other things enforced due to him being drunk. I do not believe he was speeding but I honestly don't know.

I think there is zero chance of a 3 year suspension. He'd be more likely to be banned for life than 3 years, which would essentially void the contract. He has some protections in year 1 and 2, but it was to instances solely disclosed to the club at signing. So any new instances could void it if he is suspended.

The Browns have the most cap in the league right now. It'll change some next year with a higher cap hit from Watson and a few others, but if he is suspended, he likely won't get paid, and won't count towards the cap. Obviously the draft picks hurt. Plus, they're carrying $19M on Mayfield right now that'll drop off when he is traded, or worst case, at the end of the year when he becomes a FA.

If the Texans knew and hid this all while providing the non-disclosures, then the trade should be voided. That's like selling a business with millions in hidden debt.

Developing, yes. Teams have the head coach involved in varying degrees on roster building. McDermott is a good HC. I don't think you'd find many people arguing that. But he also has a hugely talented roster. And honestly, he was worse last year as opposed to the year before overall, with a better roster. There is no way to measure any of this so the PFF article is kind of pointless.

I'm not saying I agree with any of it. Without context as far as how they getting all their averages, it's complete nonsense. It would honestly probably still be nonsense with context. Just wanted to point out that it wasn't a direct ranking of their coaches.

I have no idea, it honestly doesn't say. It just has W/L estimates "Based on an average roster", so I don't know what all went into it.

I'm not saying I agree with them, but they are basing it on if they had an average roster. So it's not a ranking on how the coaches have performed with their given team, but how they THINK they'd perform if every coach was given the exact same roster of average players.

Right, that's the entire case here. If they are forced, he is a sexual assaulter and deserves jail time. If they were consensual at the time, and then later changed to sue, then that's wrong on their end. That's what needs to be found out. There are so many moving parts to this whole thing that it's very hard to find the truth in any of it for sure.

That doesn't say he sent a text saying he makes them uncomfortable. It says that one of the women told another woman that he said it to her. Not disputing whether it happened or not, but a text is written proof. That would make the situation more if clear if he had sent it as a message.

I did not see one, and can't find anything showing he texted saying he makes masseuses uncomfortable. Not saying he didn't, I just can't find it. Obviously that's a bad look if so. The other one with Solis is weird. If he truly didn't understand why she was crying, I could get apologizing just because you know something made her uncomfortable and I would also feel bad if I made someone feel that way unintentionally. BUT, if what she described is true, then he knew what it was and that he was wrong and just trying to smooth it over.

Depp was fired from the planned Pirates of the Caribbean movies, and was basically ignored in Hollywood for however long now, until the trial was public. But he was definitely vilified in the public after the allegations came out. It wasn't until the trial when the truth started coming out that everyone turned on Heard.

Right, forgot you are a medical expert who knows the inner workings of the NFL and all of it's players.

Most of the lineman shrink because most people are not made to be 320lbs. I listen to Joe Thomas a lot being a Browns fan, and he discussed how hard it was to keep his weight at 315lbs to play LT. He would literally eat at all hours of the day, and eat huge amounts of good/calories just to keep his weight up. A local kid from where I'm from was recruited D1 college football, and ended up at Michigan. He was a pretty highly touted OL, especially for a small HS, and he is now a TE simply because he was physically unable to keep his weight where it needed to be to play D1. Players are bigger/faster/stronger because they are focused on nutrition and training almost 24/7/365. I'm not naïve enough to think no one is juicing, but Donald isn't some 350lbs muscle bound monster. He is huge obviously, but he plays at like 280-290.

I guess I mean that I think it's obvious he made sexual advances or at least hinted at sexual involvement of some kind with some of these women. It all comes down to whether he threatened/forced/coerced any of them. If he did, that's obviously a major issue. But asking or hinting is creepy, but not technically illegal or in and of itself harassment. So he's not the squeaky clean guy he was thought to be, but it's undetermined if what he did was harassment/sexual assault, or makes him civilly liable.

Plenty of teams involve their franchise QB in decisions, of varying importance. But none of the "he shouldn't be involved in those decisions" comments matter if they promised him he would be. You don't promise people one thing and then ignore them when the time comes. Businesses that do that tend to lose a lot of employees.

I have no idea what he is. Teammates and people around him say he's great. Obviously 20 some women say he's not. I imagine it's somewhere in between, but who knows. 2 grand juries decided not to indict, so there isn't much evidence, but that also doesn't mean he's innocent. My biggest hold up on the whole thing is that the Plaintiffs' lawyer is also the lawyer for the Texans' owner, and this all started once Watson wanted traded. Obviously I have no idea if any of it is true or not either way though.

We don't know what they told him, BUT if they told him he'd be involved and then they ignored him, that's on them for even saying it to start with. It's crazy how many claim to have intricate knowledge of the inner workings of random franchises, and then make baseless claims based on that.