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cle23

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  1. Where the NFL is going to have issues, and where I'm sure Watson's attorneys will focus, is the lack of discipline that the NFL imposed on owners accused of the same or very similar things. Granted Watson's accusation totals are higher, but Dan Snyder has several accusations as well and the NFL has done literally nothing. Kraft had some issues. And the NFL did absolutely nothing. And NFL's own policy states that owner's should be held to a higher standard than even the players.
  2. So now it's Biden's fault Russia invaded Ukraine, a country as previously stated, they have been occupying portions of for over 10 years. You guys are something else.
  3. And again, it is political because this is the only issue they stand like this against. Do they ask every person who enters what their beliefs are? Are they questioned in regards to their pasts? What happened to a vast majority of the Catholic priests accused of child sexual assault? Nothing. In fact, many were promoted or simply moved elsewhere after the accusations where they could just simply start over on a new group of kids. If they single out 2 politicians as suggested, and no one else, that is 100% political.
  4. Let's be clear as to what this meant to start with. "The law did not allow non-citizens to vote in state or federal elections." "The law allowed legal residents, including those with green cards, to vote in municipal elections starting in 2023." No one was voting in the Presidential election as a non citizen. And everyone was here legally.
  5. My original comment was in regards to someone saying they were fine with the Catholic Church denying people like Biden and Pelosi communion. I said at that point, it would obviously be political. You can't pick out one point and make that your rallying cry, and then ignore all other things. And I think the church should accept people with varying backgrounds as people change and improve all the time, but what makes their stance on this different from all the other people they serve who have dark backgrounds? The Catholic Church has no business being high and mighty in regards to the unborn when they (not all obviously) actively engaged in sexual abuse on tens of thousands of living, breathing children, and the higher ups knew and covered it up. My whole premise is they can do and feel as they like within the law, but when they start injecting themselves into politics, by definition, that changes their tax exempt status.
  6. Again, that's fine. They can have whatever position they want on it, but that doesn't change the tax exempt status they currently enjoy, and whether or not they should still receive it. It's like freedom of speech. You can say/do almost anything you want, but that does not mean that there can't be consequences. Just that the government can't arrest you for it. Same thing applies here. They can hold that position, it's not illegal. But they should lose tax exempt status if they want to dip their foot into politics and make political statements. How is it ok to deny communion for this situation and then freely give it out otherwise, to a pile of other people who have done or stood for worse?
  7. This is direct off the IRS religious tax exempt status: To qualify for tax-exempt status, the organization must meet the following requirements (covered in greater detail throughout this publication): - the organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific or other charitable purposes; - no substantial part of its activity may be attempting to influence legislation; - the organization may not intervene in political campaigns; Denying communion based off of politics seems to be in conflict with 1, and at least probably with 2. Also, no one is denying them the free exercise of. Revoking tax exempt status has nothing to do with stopping them from exercising their beliefs.
  8. Right, and that is 100% political at that point, and the church should be denied tax exempt status. The catholic church covered up and enabled thousands of pedophile priests, but suddenly this is the breaking point? People who lie, cheat, steal? Murderers have been born again and aren't denied the same. If the line you draw as a church is political, then they are entering the political world, and tax exempt status should be revoked. Just the same as gay marriage. No church who disagrees with gay marriage should be forced to perform a gay marriage, but the second a church tries to prevent a gay marriage in the eyes of the government, then it's political.
  9. The first time a church says it will deny communion to anyone who agrees with abortion is the time that church should lose all tax exempt status. I am not saying a church should support it as I understand why they wouldn't, but if Jesus can forgive the criminal hanging next to him on the cross, then it is not the church's place to pass judgement and deny people for things the church disagrees with. If the church wants to be political, it can pay taxes like anyone else.
  10. How high was that hurdle you had to jump to get "it's ok to eat children" from what I said? Someone claimed that animals were better than us because they will risk their lives for their young. But a majority of animals will abandon/kill their own young for a variety of reasons if the circumstances give them a reason to.
  11. The "spine" of Mitch McConnel. That might be the funniest thing I've read in a really long time. You ever see animals abandon their young if they aren't fit? Or the ones that eat them? Or the ones that wipe out an entire group of young to they can impregnate the mothers again? So yeah, your point is pointless.
  12. There is also a very clear as day policy for the gambling, and 100% evidence that Ridely did it. I have no idea what Watson did, but based on all the allegations and such, it seems he more than likely did something inappropriate. How severe is unknown to me at least. So Ridely's case is pretty cut and dry given the evidence and the clear policy in place. Watson's is less clear. Also, you can't use a gambling case as precedence for another case. They are completely different. I guarantee that Watson's lawyers will try to use Ben's case as precedent if he is suspended for so much longer than Ben was.
  13. Again, all you are saying is speculation. And what Gibbons was accused of had nothing to do with Lewan as far what kind of person he is. Gibbons was expelled for sexual misconduct, so obviously there was something there on that end. As far as Lewan, I don't know either way what happened. If he did do it, then yes, he is a scumbag. But people all the time are saying "so and so is a garbage person" all based off something that may or may not have happened. This type of issue hits home for me because a friend of mine growing up was accused up something I know for a fact he did not do, but that didn't stop him from being drug through the dirt for months all because an ex of his accused him of something he didn't do because she was mad. And please tell me what makes Lewan a known dirtbag?
  14. He allegedly did. This is the crazy stuff that makes all the allegations hard to sort out. There are about 4 people on the planet that know if he said it or not. Just because it is in a report doesn't make it true. It could be, and if so is obviously disgusting, but police didn't charge him, they just warned him to avoid contact.
  15. What's the issue with Lewan? I honestly don't remember him doing anything too absurd. Unless I missed it or forgot.
  16. Ray Rice got 2 games, so it didn't "start" there. It was upgraded to "indefinite" but was later overturned. He was then blacklisted from the NFL, but not because of punishments/suspensions.
  17. Allen is near the top of the league right now, but he is a LONG way from GOAT status. Not even in the remote discussion at this point. Brady had 2 Superbowls in 4 seasons, and he didn't play in one of those seasons. He added a 3rd Superbowl in his 5th season.
  18. Stats are just a reference point. It's one way to compare to other QBs, but obviously not the only way.
  19. So you say he was on a garbage team, then dismiss that he was playing on a garbage team the rest of the post. Cousins has had elite WRs his entire time in Minnesota, and usually has 2 elite WRs between Diggs/Thielen/Jefferson. Watson has 3 of his 4 season with QBR over 100, and his other was 93 or so, so it wasn't like this is a one time thing. He is second all time in QB rating, granted in only 4 seasons. 106.6 rating, 7TD/3INT with a 68.2% completion percentage while leading. Granted not as good as when behind, but again, look at his supporting cast. A bunch of average to below average players and Will Fuller, who is hurt ALL the time.
  20. When you are on a bad team you are behind a lot. Those QBs also tend to throw a lot of interceptions, which he did not. When it gets late in the game teams will go to prevent defense but if you're down 10 points in the 2nd quarter they're not just gonna let you walk down the field. And like I said before, his supporting cast was absolute trash.
  21. At the end of 2020, Watson had the highest QBR in the league, with a much worse supporting cast than most of the guys you listed. Led the league in yards, and also had 33/7 TD to INT. Obviously none of that excuses anything he is accused of, but let's stop acting like he was a middle of the road QB before all this.
  22. The Browns have the most cap space in the league.
  23. Yes, Dante Stallworth. The big thing there was the person Stallworth hit was in the middle of a large highway in the middle of the night. But Stallworth did spend a short time in jail and have a lot of other things enforced due to him being drunk. I do not believe he was speeding but I honestly don't know.
  24. I think there is zero chance of a 3 year suspension. He'd be more likely to be banned for life than 3 years, which would essentially void the contract. He has some protections in year 1 and 2, but it was to instances solely disclosed to the club at signing. So any new instances could void it if he is suspended.
  25. The Browns have the most cap in the league right now. It'll change some next year with a higher cap hit from Watson and a few others, but if he is suspended, he likely won't get paid, and won't count towards the cap. Obviously the draft picks hurt. Plus, they're carrying $19M on Mayfield right now that'll drop off when he is traded, or worst case, at the end of the year when he becomes a FA.
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