Lieutenant Aldo Raine

False, Allen hardly took any like that. He did in preseason but not during the season.

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I think my point was pretty clear... you don't even know if the Bills would have taken him at 10 just like the 9 teams prior (Cleveland, Chicago, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Tennessee, NY Jets, LA Chargers, Carolina, and Cincinnati) who all, minus maybe LA and Carolina, could have used a QB. Playing the hindsight game you are playing, no way he would have fallen to 10 anyway. You're point is falling on deaf ears. He is a Chief and not a Bill - get over it.

You don’t even know if the Bills would have taken him then if they didn’t trade! Your speaking in complete hindsight.

Geez, some of you here are completely short sighted and fail to see the big picture. This is about national exposure for Allen and the Bills win or lose. Allen can display his personality and leadership as well as arm talent. There’s a whole thread about Buffalo being a smaller market and the struggle to attract FA talent. If it the event doesn’t happen, the Bills still got some exposure. I thought we want to attract talent. And is it so bad if Allen and Mahomes chum it up and gain some mutual friendship and respect of each other?

Gives Josh and Buffalo some National exposure and probably for charity. Yet the haters gotta hate!

Like I have stated in other threads about Williams, he has decent hands, excellent straight line speed, and is a strider. However, he is not a crisp route runner. He would be a solid #2 or #3, but he's not worth #1 money. He really excels at shallow drags and medium crossing routes because he can out run the defender and turn an 8yd crosser into 15-20 yard gains. He's a decent bomb threat. Where he struggles is trying to sell double cut moves because of his long legs, he tends to round his cuts.

So how is it when Bills fans laugh at Josh Rosen you get all defensive. One can argue you are in some Rosen Cult!

Why is this thread still going? Mahomes plays for KC and Allen plays for Buffalo. NOTHING is going to change that. rinse and repeat; rinse and repeat. 20 pages of regurgitation.

Well, if you truly watched his college tape you have seen his blazing speed, knack for sensing, pressure, and his personality.

I seriously thought Denver was taking him at #5 because they coached him and Mayfield at the Senior Bowl. Played in the elements at Wyoming, closely resembles a young Elway, etc. I also thought Chubb was going #4 to Cleveland. Worked out for the best I believe. I think the 2018 draft, especially the first round), will be one of the better drafts in a while.

Nah, having a competent center has nothing to do with QB play.

A kid who can throw 70 yds through the air with such velocity is a natural thrower of the football. Counter-jab

At a minimum, he could be a special teams stand-out for sure. Has a nose for the ball and likes to tackle.

Noticed you said nothing about wins. Do you just want to see better box scores?

After watching some of these playoff games this past weekend with some of the best QBs in the league; I saw quite a few woeful throws and I kept thinking if Josh had thrown a ball like that, he would be skewered by the commentators and others alike based on a narrative. Only thing he can do is throw and play his way out of that narrative. Winning cures most things.

I understand where you are coming from, but I think that is what makes him special. There will be games where he rushes for 10 yds and games where he rushes for close to 100. I don't have an issue as long as he does it when necessary and protects himself as best he can. Having a guy who can gain critical first downs or extend plays with his legs is a nice weapon to have. I think with better weapons and another year of tutelage will change the ratio in favor of using his arm more. I follow the Chargers too and while Rivers is a good passer, nothing more frustrating than seeing all the yards he leaves on the field or non-conversions because he is so immobile. Nice to develop a QB who can hopefully master both.

Why? As long as he continues to improve in the passing game - why would you want to take that ability away from him. If the defense is going to give up lanes where he can gain critical first downs and big chunks, take what the defense is giving you. We all agree we want him to become a more complete passer, but don't take that part of his game away.

Agreed. He turned out to be a great QB, kudos to the Chiefs. No sense in whining about it now.

Like I said...shoulda woulda coulda.

Ok, like Mahomes was the second coming going into the draft. He was evaluated like all the other Texas Tech QBs who throw up ridiculous numbers. Secondly, I was making reference to fans who like to play this shoulda woulda game.

Everyone is an expert in hindsight.

Well, there’s room on the Chief’s bus - maybe you should climb aboard.