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All good points. And most driven by the dominant defense. I think this is a great team and the loss to the Jags doesnt change that. But if the issues on O cant be resolved it just makes the road much tougher because you cant rely on the D being that dominant all the time and especially come playoff time.

You have to look at the full picture. Are your wins all very close? Are your wins due to turnovers? Are your wins due to an imbalance - really good O or really good D? Is one player performing on another level? There are so many variables. If the Bills had looked near perfect and then randomly lose to the Jags then I think you cough it up to any given Sunday. But when you have legitimate flaws that have shown up on multiple game days then it is a deficiency that needs to be fixed or you are at risk of losing to any team. Right now the Bills look more like that. There have been games with good numbers. But a lot of that was due to both the schedule and defense helping the offense out a lot with great field position and keeping the other team off the field. But the O has really struggled even in those blow out games. The OL has struggled all season. The running game has not been established. The Allen / Diggs connection has not been there. It needs to be fixed vs just thinking its nothing and all teams lose.

Just like TB did last year with guys like AB, Gronk, Fournette, etc. Idiots its not like it helped them get a super bowl or anything. What? They did win, I thought they sucked bc all those guys were toast and they didnt even make the playoffs.

Like we should be. Especially when all in means some partial year rentals that cost next to nothing.

Isn't the goal to win it all? Even if they completely suck next year this myth around 3-5 year building process is gone. Teams can have an awful year and be back in contention a year later. I feel like its the teams that say its a 3-5 year process that suck more years than not.

Get those OL painting the fence, wax the car. Blocking do not come from here it come from here.

A lot of things at play. I think Josh was also shaky because he was getting hit and under duress so much. That impacts the decision making and you play confused. Nothing was going right. This is where I blame Daboll - he did nothing to help. Made no adjustments like adding an extra TE or FB for protection, let alone change up the playcalling. He went out with the same play calls and formation essentially 95% of this game.

It is both the bye and the home field. Do we really want play an extra game that could very likely be against a team like PIT, CLE or even KC?

Your missing the point that the first read can be dependent on the defense. If you see a guy lined up here, it can change the read. If the play does not allow for that then you are screwed and we need a new OC.

Some big egos and know it alls on this board...

But you don’t get Webb + another player for Tribusky. Or is there another spot. Zimmer to IR was the only real open slot and that was filled with Lewis.

Should be - Zimmer = Lewis; Tribusky = Webb; Kumerow = OBJ

Zimmer to IR -out for year

There is no lane to cutback. End of story.

Cant ignore his attempts are way up. He has thrown 319 passes vs 277 last year.

Play design and/or adjustments not being made seem to be the biggest issue after watching and rewatching these breakdowns. That is good news...I think. It means Daboll and Allen have some work to do if they are willing to make changes needed.

I have been slamming the table on this. Not to mention yelling at the screen on game day. We have no time yet Daboll still has Diggs and Sanders running long developing routes. It could be on Josh not calling for an adjustment at the line. But this is where they need to get on the same page and have the WR breaking routes off early. Beas on this play should run the quick slant or in not a curl route. But if you slow it down you do see that Josh should have felt the pressure and quickly gone to Sweeney but he is only looking at Diggs.

At times Singletary has looked better this year. He seemed to have an extra burst but I dont think they have ever given him a really chance. It is also interesting that since the HOU game his carries have come down and the O has also looked worse.

Bingo and this is a very common play design. You need a quick option for Allen or his only choice is to scramble.

Just one play but we see Daboll stuck on deep corners and mid curls that require time. The outlet is RB slow release into the flat. Why is there no quick slant or hitch as a hot route? It was clear he has not time.

Maybe because they dont have the answers...

Or the other contending teams dont have a big need. We do.

Apparently. I am one that thinks they should have.

TJ Hock Remind me who cut Logan Thomas?

Sweeney belongs in the practice squad.