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yeah a lot of injuries, but apart from those 2 years he had nothing close. Median season is like.. 300 yards rushing. Levens was a great receiving back when he was getting touches in those 2 years. And if we're accepting Peyton Hillis' season.. The difference between Hillis and Levens' best "one year wonder" and second best season aren't far apart. Levens just had that good of a year in 97.
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haha. Yes I saw that list and just thought. "oh yeah those are a bunch of good runningbacks! Who's Jerry Porter?" I think Levens' career is vastly overrated by many (I used to be one of them) because his year and SB was so good and imprinted on minds people don't realize he did very very little before and after. Packers OL in 97 was something else. The whole team top to bottom really was impressive. The world has to know the true career of Levens. Hit by the injury bug, depth chart woes, and happened to be an instrumental part of one of the greatest SB teams in history, with a fantastic SB performance to boot.
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Dorsey Levens had such a good year in 1997. 1,435 yards rushing, 370 receiving.. not to mention he was instrumental in taking the Packers over the hump for their SB win. And his other 1000 yard season was pedestrian at 1,034. Next best rushing year? 566. I'll allow it since he was a monster in 1997 AND his play directly lead to the SB. But otherwise.. yeah not so great a list. I mean if we're taking Peyton Hillis with 1,177 yards in 2010.. and 587 in 2011. Difference in yards wasn't really that much better than Levens' 2 1000 yard seasons, and Levens had the much better year. Peyton had a.. pretty good year, nothing to write home about. But Levens' median is very very low. Peyton's is much closer to his one year hit. It WAS surprising though.
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I recall Brandon Lloyd caught 1,448 yards and 11 TDs for the Broncos from Orton in 2010. He looked like he turned the corner to be the next top NFL WR, lead the league in receiving yards, Sidney Rice going 1,312 yards and 8 TDs with Brett Favre for Vikings in 2009. And more notable, probably among the tops on this list: JOSH GORDON WENT 1,646 YARDS AND 9 TDs! All these guys looked amazing those years. I'm sure there's tons of examples of WRs, crazy how they can catch fire for one glorious season and show all the talent in the world but somehow lose their speed, chemistry, hands for the rest of their career. Obviously we know why Gordon had his case. Braylon Edwards for 1,289 and 16 TDs in 2007. I'm sure there's tons of these guys. Alfred Morris 1,613 yards rushing rookie year.. RG3 that same year as well. Gordon has to be among the tops of this list, for any position, though.
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It's about how inexplicably bad the offense was. It exceeded our already low expectations. 1st half of the season should have looked like the 2nd. And the reason is really simple. Nothing to do with McDermott's grand team building scheme, but the quarterbacks and failed WRs he came out with. He's apparently learned by reversing the situation to a sort out the offense we should have seen in the 2nd half but a lot of us had alarm bells ringing on how bad things started out. We've already had our argument on Peterman and Kelvin so I'll just leave it at our offense could have been watchable and interesting at the very least with the exact same record and i would be more gung ho on the regime. Neither of us think it will happen again sounds like so s'all in the past. Just hope McDermott is constantly learning and improving
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Cowboys decline options on WR Williams
Bing Bong replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
HE'S HORRIBLE. Athletic but uncoordinated. We're supposed to be looking for WRs that don't drop balls. Cowboys have kept him around this long simply because they never found the depth to replace him. There's not a doubt in my mind they paid Deonte Thompson to come in and try to replace Terrance. -
I must have caught the wrong games. Don't recognize those guys but the QBs I did see were BAD. Ooh you're saying Garret Gilbert is doing well? That's awesome. I saw a lot of him at Texas. Was a pretty poor Quarterback but he was hyped to be the next best thing coming out of high school. That would be cool to see him make that route I recall he was supposed to have pro ready - not just college ready - skillsets as a highschool recruit. Post Colt McCoy Texas passed on several Heisman winning and NFL Quarterbacks for the Garret Gilberts of CFB. Disappointing knowing Baker, Manziel, Levi Jones were all sitting in our lap
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Wine walk with josh Allen (barstool)
Bing Bong replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Nah getting drunk and flirting with groupies clears his mind when he's taking a break to study film twice as fast. Dude gets it. If anything he's not doing it enough. -
Current NFL CBA ends after 2020. AAF in the mix?
Bing Bong replied to PUNT750's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
That's good for the Bills since we're ALWAYS winning the offseason -
Current NFL CBA ends after 2020. AAF in the mix?
Bing Bong replied to PUNT750's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
It's pretty apparent 90% of the AAF guys aren't up to NFL level. Especially offensively. I like having farm leagues like NFL Europe, CFL to get those guys that do slip through the cracks.. Cameron Wake, Flutie, Warner, Delhomme, Warren Moon. There's definitely guys that completely slip through the cracks but certainly not enough for a league to take over whatsoever. Best case scenario they can get some sort of NFL affiliation designation I guess? To be profitable and farm quality talent to get bought out and sort of be like a more effective version of the NFL Europe model. Keep it primarily in the South too. They were smart picking markets. Can't go wrong picking teams in any decent sized city in Florida or Texas alone without an NFL team. Oh well that already answers my points ^ I think it'sa great idea all around for the reason you mentioned. NFL Europe was great as a farm league. It just really shouldn't have been in Europe lol. I'm apparent why the AAF isn't making it's NFL affiliation more important. Should be a decent marketing idea to show the fans.. unless posing as an alternate league has it's merit. -
The AAF is entertaining enough to watch on a rainy day. I can see why they're looking for Quarterback talent.. even without the money the name recognition brings. The Quarterback play in the AAF is horrible.. the biggest drawback for me watching the games I saw. Defenses seem to be way more talented across the board than the offenses in AAF. That'll be the biggest problem for any upstart league for my entertainment. There aren't even 32 Quarterbacks in the world good enough for some games to be watchable in the NFL. Would be cool to see if the new Warners, Delhommes and Maddoxes show up from these leagues.
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Absolutely. There's something to be said about handling personalities where others can't. Some hard personalities just need a confident HC that demands their respect. See Dareus with Marrone vs Dareus in Rex's clown show: and money makes it all the more complicated. It's part of the job in a completely merit based group to manage ultra talented young men that have always had preferential treatment. Managing personalities into a cohesive lockerroom. Of course some players truly are toxic but I have a feeling some of that Steelers talent would toe the line more with the better head coaches in the league. And vice versa.. they could be even worse with a pushover coach. It's not like Mike Tomlin is a scrub with these guys. I want McDermott to be taking notes from how ole Tom Coughlin ran his Giants. It ain't all about scheme.
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I think his value on the field with us next year vastly outweighs any trade value which I have to imagine is pretty much nothing. He still showed a handful of impressive runs from time to time probably best served as a limited carry backup role. He probably should be more effective than last year if JA makes more of an effort being decisive in his checkdown game and expands his passing skillset. JA needs to throw it quick if he doesn't like his read and sees an easy 5 yard gain to Shady for a chance at more. Foles has caught my eye in being excellent at picking apart with checkdown gashes before throwing a bomb when he sees it these last 2 years.
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Cowboys decline options on WR Williams
Bing Bong replied to *******'s topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Oof this guy is dropcity I thought we were taking a hard turn away from having too many WRs without hands He can't haha. That's the biggest criticism you'll hear from Cowboys fans -
Uninformed? Maybe. Probably. As you can see people have wildly different takes on the statistics and what that information tells you. Not surprised a life long football jock may not know all the facts. I think it ends there.. it's simple as that. We're just filling in the gaps elsewhere about him. I saw a man kneeling in a preseason game right after after 2 or 3 specific and publicized police shootings. The timing means everything.. he was upset about what had been going on. I don't think he was aware or particularly researched the statistics.. don't think he reveled in the attention like some of us keep saying given he knelt before he was even noticed by the media and stopped kneeling afterwards. But that's what I think.. you think otherwise.. we have NO idea what's going on in his head. The media turned this into a ****storm and Kaepernick became the SJW face. Many SJWs can be super annoying and uninformed lol people that generally align with that movement will agree.. so it just feels like we're taking our annoyance over some dumb SJW legion of college undergrads on Kaepernick, a man that's really said nothing publicly or gone out of his way to be in the public eye since then. What he has done is take a Nike deal and sue his employer over a civil compensation case.. both of which have nothing to do with how he felt about the police shootings when he knelt. The case didn't have to broadcasted to the publicly and debated endlessly by us WHO ARE MAKING THE NEWS ABOUT KAEP'S CASE AND DENYING THE AAF. Kaep did what anybody would do if they had a civil case against their employer or had Nike approach them. I don't see attention seeking there. I see people filling in gaps in their knowledge about some football jock after the media went bananas over 2 or 3 preseason kneels. He doesn't have to be a hero or saint but he certainly shouldn't be some sort of villain. At worst if he offended people by kneeling during the national anthem he was being shortsighted and uniformed.. and I'm fine with that opinion. Just find many opinions taking it further that he's some money grubbing media attention villain just people throwing their personal politics at a football jock.
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With expectations higher, is anyone else calm?
Bing Bong replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
To be more succinct bud, I'm currently of the same opinion. Although some here think JA will be MVP next year.. which, while hilarious, does make me excited about the ceiling right now. But as far as floor.. I'm calm. I like the improvement we made just over the course of a single season and have less anxiety than usual about the possibility of having a stable successful regime that doesn't go up in smoke for once. But next year should really shed some light on the Regime.. good or bad -
With expectations higher, is anyone else calm?
Bing Bong replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
You are clearly not paying enough attention to @transplantbillsfan 's exhaustive research on the subject. The epitome of optimism is slowly transferring to my subconscious. I'm personally calm and anxious about things because JA looks like a home run pick so far. Beane and McDermott haven't been perfect and it's perfectly reasonable to criticize that. But just like JA, these guys were rookies when hired and I have to assume they're learning quickly as they go as I also have to see from JA (which he certainly did show even in the span of 1 season between pre and post injury). We have a lot of "if XYZ improves" scenarios playing out, which is why I'm not ready to fully dive in on this team being a perrennial playoff team anytime soon. -
With expectations higher, is anyone else calm?
Bing Bong replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
He loves his team so much he doesn't want management to break his heart for the umpteenth time and he's a cautious lover. We all love/hate in different ways. -
With expectations higher, is anyone else calm?
Bing Bong replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Good post Virgil. I've turned the corner as well. Although I'm more in between you and Ol Dirty B ^ up here at this point. We had a promising second half to the year and, given virtually everybody from the top down is a rookie at their respective jobs, noticable improvement year to year is all I'm looking for. But the 1st half of the the season still happened. Never forget lol. That was a joke and I need a full season with all that nonsense gone. So i'm not too far from the corner if I get PTSD flashbacks from that horrible horrible first 8 games. I still remember those games like it was yesterday. The horror. -
AVP was my hero. If I could have been any Quarterback growing up it would have been the 3rd string quarterback behind a contraversy over the 1 and 2. The American dream. He had a loong career at backup. Was probably pounding brews before gameday at the end of his career. Legendary
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It's money in the bag for Kaep and he has no reason to push the arbitration process any longer. Most organizations have some kind of arbitration clause where disputes are first taken up with it before civil courts have jurisdiction.. If he hadn't got what he wanted in the trial, i'm sure he would have then brought a civil suit. it's just cheaper, particularly for smaller cases, for everyone obviously but clearly Kaep, the plaintiff, has less resources to drag this on if he has enough dirt than the NFL does.
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No he's not playing the martyr here. And that's exactly my point he cared more about his protests/activism for specific causes. Not the injustice of the NFL not employing him. That was monetary injustice. Like.. he's not fighting all social injustice to ever occur. He's not some labor rights champion. I doubt he ever particularly cared about fighting for NFL players being blackballed. Until he felt he got it. And now that he's compensated he's probably over it. His beef with society ain't about the NFL. His beef with not playing and getting paid in the NFL was a separate issue.. about getting compensated. If you're saying he sold out on that particular issue we 100% agree haha. This case was all about him getting money. He was not being a hero here. Just a regular dude.. wanting money haha.