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HE'S NOT. haha not trying to sound like an *** but getting compensated for what he believes was collusion from his employer has nothing to do with his initial prerogative of police brutality. This was absolutely about money but it also had absolutely nothing to do with exposing the NFL.. that had nothing to do with what he actually cared about to begin with. That's all I'm trying to say. Feels like we're mixing up two completely different things. He wasn't protesting the NFL and never wanted to until he felt he had a case for collusion from his employer which never really had anything to do with what he was trying to protest in the first place. He can donate some of that money for what he really cares about (I'd assume) Employment civil suit =/= protesting police brutality Different agendas
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NFL could pay more than the arbitration would have so the case doesn't become public. It's chump change to the NFL more or less, and the arbitration would have been worth one 5 year decent quarterback salary.. $15-20M. He doesn't win infinite amounts of money.. they more or less know what arbitration gives if he wins. If the NFL wants to keep it private then Kaep tells them the price. So Kaep gets more with the settlement so it's confidential.. which is exactly what happened.
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Kaepernick was never protesting for all players in the league getting blackballed by the NFL. Wasn't kneeling for all laborers in the world.. being a champion of workers comp. He settled a civil suit about employment. He won. Of course that suit over EMPLOYMENT was always about the benjamins lol. He was protesting police brutality.. which has nothing to do with NFL players being blackballed. Not all social issues civil cases are the same dude.
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The NFL could have won and have some nasty evidence emails come to the public regardless. Take a huge PR hit. Alternatively, and my lawyer friend is telling me more likely from a settlement at this time, Kaep could have had them by the balls.. NFL didn't want the case to go public and offered to settle with Kaep for more than what the arbitration would have decided. Hence why many are reporting a settlement higher than a contract you'd except Kaep to have received if he stayed employed in the league. But these are all just guesses. We don't know how much he settled for which is really the whole crux of the matter. Depends on if it's more or less than what Kaep would have gotten if he got some wacky John Elway contract.
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NFL had a lot more to lose so this was the likely outcome. The amount of money is really what we need to determine the winner haha but FWIW Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report has heard "speculation" that Kaepernick's settlement is between $60-80M $$$$$$ That's a win for Kaep if true... good god. I should move to the other thread with this I suppose.
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Neither side wants to leave it to the arbitrator.. it's like playing chicken. Nobody wants to take it to arbitration but they're going to make each other sweat like they will up to the last possible moment. Very rarely does anybody actually think they got the other party by the balls. You settle or risk whatever small chance you think you might have at losing... a lot.
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I agree Kaep absolutely isn't committed to keep playing football by now, which owners are absolutely entitled to balk at in the NFL. I think the story ends there and it's so much more simple than we're making it. People are spinning some web of non-football fiction about Kaep's personal life that they know nothing about. He craves attention, he feels entitled to the NFL, he was never genuinely into his cause, he cynically intended to profit from a social cause all along, he's desperately trying to advance a social message as we speak... Good god that's a cynical way to look at things. We're literally filling in gaps of our knowledge into his personality when all we know is his football career, and camera people obsessing over him kneeling in the pre-season for 4 weeks. SO MUCH IS PSUEDO-KNOWLEDGE of a former NFL quarterback that showed a ton of promise as a young player on a SB 49ers team.. sucked after that, kneeled, played some mediocre NFL-worthy quarterback play, then got cut. He doesn't want to play anymore.. maybe he used to, but it's over. I don't see a need to paint him as a villain or a saint nor a reason to do project who he is as a person on a football forum. The headline here is: 2 quarterbacks you've heard of don't want to play in the AAF.
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I don't understand lol. He's been insanely quiet. Other than making money from the Nike deal (why would he turn that down), dude's been completely out of the limelight. He clearly doesn't want to play football, saying as much with his asking price. How is the AAF leaking this news out about Tebow and Kaep saying anything about Tebow and Kaep WANTING to be in the news here? We're making this news not Kaep or Tebow.. they just declined the AAF that's all this is saying. "I don't want to play football anymore. You'd have to pay me $20M if you really wanted me to play. You can't do that? Cool." When's the last time Kaepernick's made his own news, prompted by his own self and not random outlets reaching out to him like this AAF story.
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Ravens trading Joe Flacco to Broncos
Bing Bong replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Right Keenum had a fantastic year by anyone's standards. It sort of sets an unreasonable bar for himself and successors Flacco and Cousins. If they're close to that production on average they're doing fine (not great, but certainly not horrible) -
Ravens trading Joe Flacco to Broncos
Bing Bong replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Actually just makes Flacco's worst comparable to Keenum's best lol -
Report: Bills working on extension for Jordan Phillips
Bing Bong replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yeah he was a moron. Altogether a terrible series for the team. He also just looked amazing for that series. But regardless I'm just saying it was pretty darn impressive how he was tossing Dolphins players around like sack dolls. Never caught my eye until then. Just good depth to have a guy that has that ceiling.. whatever the motivation.. to completely dominate every now and then while otherwise being a consistent role player. I mean idk how annoying he is in the lockerroom and wouldn't miss him terribly but I'd like to see him another season or 2 to see if he can string more performances like that.. without being an idiot. Take a class from Hughes or something. -
TMI haha. All I needed to know was AB banged Poyer's wife. Poyer's like.. one of my top 3-5 favorite players. Ain't doing him like that. The team loves him too. That secondary is a tight group and that's a great thing. So no to AB.. I'd take Bell, but I don't even find him polarizing. He held out for a contract. It happens. As far as I can tell he's a fine teammate provided he gets what he's looking for in the FA market. I think people have wildly different opinions on what makes polarizing. Some say Cam polarizing?? He celebrates a lot and was upset after losing the superbowl.. we're really narrowing our players to like a quarter of the NFL talent pool by that definition. I can literally only think of a handful of players that fit the AB bill of polarizing right now in the NFL.
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Eh, Burress was great briefly after Pittsburgh.. had his best performances as a #1 WR Giant, before shooting himself in the leg. Emmanuel Sanders needs no quarterback, Mike Wallace was a one trick pony that wasn't all that much better in Pitt than Baltimore by 100 yards to begin with. I don't see a correlation.. Factoring that some guys blow up some years (Orton to Brandon LLoyd?), obviously Big Ben helps to a degree but more than enough of those guys were good in their own right, and the Dolphins signing Wallace for big money tells you everything you need to know about Mike Wallace hitting Free Agency lol: not valued for much by the Steelers, yet another crappy reciever overvalued by the Dolphins. I would take Brown's 1600 yard seasons and drop it to 1200-1400 on an above average offense elsewhere if you want haha.. Pretty darn good. He's clearly been a monster receiver and the Steelers knew it giving him that money while sloughing away all the guys you just mentioned as having not as much talent as Brown.
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I never thought anyone could come close to it, but Dareus is in Haynesworth territory now. He's not THAT close mind you, Haynesworth tanked his career so deliberately and publicly he set the highest of bars. Not even Dareus or most great players could be Haynesworth level if they tried their hardest. It was the perfect storm of Dan Snyder ineptitude, Haynseworth apparent talent, and his strong desire to never make even the most remote attempt of effort on the football field (which is pretty hard, sometimes you instinctually do something good).
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Dude, stop. That was a lockerroom fight between football teammates. It's more akin to the Gronk and Tre White incident than Kareem Hunt's. Teammates have gotten in fights thousands of times and will continue to do so. IK just nailed him so bad it leaked. IK was never getting criminal charges, neither will Michael Jordan for punching Steve Kerr, or Gronk for Tre. Teammates will get suspended for a fight gone wrong.. It ain't a good look sure. It's not criminal. Are we seriously going to cry foul on Michael Jordan punching a teammate now? Just use another example lol. If Zay Jones mercilessly beat some random dude - OUTSIDE OF SPORTS - and broke his jaw, yes that's assault and we and the league would have a criminal problem much more similar to Kareem Hunt.. who by the way has assaulted dudes.. than freaking IK Enemkpali vs Geno Smith.
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Can someone explain Grammy song of the year to me ?
Bing Bong replied to Teddy KGB's topic in Off the Wall Archives
Childish Gambino gets airtime from tons of young bloods. He's not typically a "woke" artist he just wrote a song that's gonna pander to a ton of people and get popular. Which is what you do if you're a successful musician making a rap single and want to win a grammy and tons of $$$.. which is what the grammy's are about every year: pandering.. which is why the grammy's suck and you should never watch or care who wins again. Uproxx and the Ringer or Rolling Stone.. stick to magazine reviews for your favorite artists/genre and STAY AWAY FROM THE GRAMMY'S. WORST AWARDS SHOW / INDICATION OF HIT SINGLE EVER. That said, Childish Gambino.. I'm a fan but he has some pretty ratched random songs. Haven't heard this one.. could suck. But Grammy's give it to pandering artists.. as is tradition. He certainly isn't the leader of the Woke agenda. Just a rapper with a dope woke *** single [according to grammy's]. -
What's the best name in the upcoming draft?
Bing Bong replied to BuffAlone's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
KB would be terrible! haha. Slow. Lacks aggression. The scouting report isn't strong for him at corner. Neither is it at WR.. you may have a point here.. -
why a vet at the backup QB position is so important
Bing Bong replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think everybody but McBeane knew veteran backup quarterbacks that have had a modicum of success and longevity are nice to have for your high overall draft pick quarterback. They've lived and learnt. -
What's the best name in the upcoming draft?
Bing Bong replied to BuffAlone's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Exactly. Great name for a corner. Greedy for targets lol. I'll take that with the money greed. -
why a vet at the backup QB position is so important
Bing Bong replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
What conspiracies is Shady into? -
Kyler Murray officially chooses Football over Baseball
Bing Bong replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
can't tell if it's a good gig. High pay, less pressure, less pain. But good God the travel, the bore, and hours must suuuck. More hotties though. Baseball WAGs are always the best of the leagues.