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IN WHAT WORLD IS GERALD MCCOY WORTH A 7TH AND NOT A STEAL FOR THAT AND WHAT.. 13M WE PROBABLY WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SPEND??! Triggered. HE'S NOT A 7TH WHAT IS WRONG WITH YA'LL'S BRAINS?!

wow those are the exact same ones I was saying the other day OP. Nice.

We called a bad audible. Gotta get the first on 3rd and long before the thread punts. huddle up boys

Tom Brady era all AFCE team (this'll be fun.. would be like a 12-4 team today between 3 teams over 20 years): HC: Tony Sparano OC: Chan Gailey DC: Todd Bowles QB: Chad Pennington, backup: Brett Favre!!! RB: Ricky Williams, LeSean McCoy WR: Jarvis Landry, Stevie Johnson, Chris Chambers TE: Dustin Keller OT: Jason Peters, D'Brickashaw Ferguson OG: Ritchie Incognito, Alan Faneca C; Nick Mangold DE: Jason Taylor, Cameron Wake DT: Kyle Williams, Pat Williams LB: Zachary Taylor, David Harris, Takeo Spikes CB: Darrelle Revis, Nate Clements SS: LaRon Landry FS: Jamal Adams?? Basically the AFE gave Brady no QBs and no HCs vs the GOAT HC and QB , everybody had great RBs, Jets boasted a monster OL, Dolphins a monster DL and signed FA LBs like crazy Bills had the DBs, skill positions, and mostly never re-signed ANYBODY long enough to merit the 20 year team cut. And this is a pretty good team! Take these players in their prime and they probably go between 14-2 and 11-5 before losing to Brady in the divisional round after Favre relieves Pennington in a shootout against Brady.

eh, best team vs Patriots WAS the 2010 Jets. Rex came out swinging with that defense and.. Thomas Jones?? But it was mostly a wet fart. AFCE non Patriot MVP: Darrelle Revis, if you disqualify him for being a Patriot: Cameron Wake Best quarterback: Chad Pennington fo sho. Followed by Fitz, then Tyrod, then Tannehill, then Sanchez. Best HC: Tony Sparano.. whoever came up with the WildCat.. followed by Rex. Best defense: 2010 Jets. Best Offense: Chan Gailey Bills Best RB: Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Thomas Jones, LeSean McCoy, FreDex Best WR: Stevie Johnson, Chris Chambers, Brandon Marshall, Jarvis Landry, TO Honorable mentions: Cameron Wake, Kyle Williams, Aaron Schobel, Jason Taylor, Bart Scott, David Harris Good job AFCE.

Goff's an excellent quarterback. Underrated too IMO. But if Todd Gurley is just a "fine back" with 1,800+ YFS and not considered 1a and 1b to Goff in the Rams offense than he is VASTLY underrated! It's synergy.. we need to stop attributing an offense's success with one player. Gurley provides a threat Goff has a luxury of having both the passing game, as a blocker, as keeping defenses honest on the pass, and making the redzone offense for the Rams a pick your poison situation. The coach is great, the QB, the RB, the OL. the refs aren't too shabby for the Rams either.. If they didn't have all these pieces, they wouldn't be in the SB. No Goff, no SB. No Gurley, no SB. No McVay, no SB. It's Gurley's nose for the end zone that is the driving force here. RB TDs are a godsend to offenses, they make the most important 7 point play so much easier for everybody.

I love seeing a smart rub block from a running back! Very important high IQ position next to Quarterback Marshall Faulk's best attribute and biggest reason for the greatest show on turf I'mo

Lol I don't really think that's his playing weight anyways. Weird he didn't stick with anybody this season, but if he doesn't stick with the Rams. Git er done Beane and blam him and Shady can get it done. I think hr can be a #1 and he showed with the Broncos, he can play with a subpar line. 2 3 down backs is great for Quarterbacks always having a safety blanket when in trouble. Ivory is all right but but those two I'd be perfectly fine with Bills running backs going in the next year. And it gives us the luxury to look for a Kamara in the draft later rounds. Our running game can get better even without investing in offensive line IMO. And of course we are going to improve there.. hard not to! Drooling at it. I'd pay for Bell 3 years if we end up not being able to spend enough money but that's a hot take I don't really want to argue about lol. Just saying we'd have a far better pass-catching group overnight. And the spirit of the OP, no I don't want to invest in running backs too heavily but that goes for any position.. I DO want to spend our money this offseason while we have cap and few upcoming contracts to worry about anyway. Team building's more about your cap situation not exactly what positions your money is going. Elite players anywhere make it worth it so long as you're not jeopardizing strengthening up or retaining units going forward. Josh Allen on a rookie deal is a good enough reason for me to spend heavily on offense. That's precisely why the Zeke and Gurley contracts are working for their teams. And learning how to win why you're not having a team cap hamstrung and have appropriate talent is huge for young quarterbacks. Don't think goff and Dak and Russell Wilson have such good starts their career otherwise before they become the best talent on offense Same goes for Watson and Hopkins. I want to get good quick and presumably that's why we have the cap

I'm all about Dem RBs. Don't have to pay top dollar. Draft well, get you a Corey Dillon, Blount, DeAngelo Williams, CJ Anderson. These guys make an offensive impact. But make sure you have a good coordinator and COMPETENT run blocking pleeaaaase Bills.

I always thought CJ Anderson was a sneaky fat water bug.. pretty dangerous combo, agile, center of gravity at his knees, great blocker and catcher. Would have loved the Bills to have grabbed him with our RB woes. Man has been my fantasy darling. Brought me waiver wire pickup 2 fantasy football chips Name of the game. One Pierre Thomas got me my 3rd Anyways. Gurley's another story. MVP candidate with all them TDs. There's something to be said with about an RB that can take it from the house from any good run/short pass play to from 20. Makes your red zone offense a piece of cake relatively.

Lol. Gurley better watch his back for CJ Spiller's comeback. CJ Anderson is the least of his problems with Spiller honing his RB craft at home.

WHA WHA WHAAAAT?! I can't even argue with this. Your opinion lol. I'll continue to think Gurley is immensely important if not the most important to one of the best offenses in football, and the Sony Michel's good days are exactly what the doctor ordered for the 2019 Patriots. CJ Spiller's a great back to have when Gurley his hurt, but he's not Gurley.

Zeke, Gurley, Sony Michel completely changed those offenses to be as effective as they were. Heck even Marlon Mack took a load off Luck's back. You treat it like any other position and try to get talent there. Zeke and Gurley are NOT a dime a dozen.

These aren't the droids.. I mean blow out losses.. you're looking for. I'm being led to believe everything is peaches. Until we WIN and lose competitively I'd like to see these components start working and not be lead to believe I'm crazy for seeing reasons why we sucked for so many games. Our recievers were apparently hamstrung by Tyrod until we learned they were just bad when we trotted out a no 7 overall pick and got the same results with slightly better WRs.

He didn't "fill the hole bud". I didn't fail on the point that we played Matthews for 10 games. Even if your pure speculation that Matthews was a pure throwaway players is correct we got a crappy one and started him lol. Hence whoever acquired and played him gets just as much blame as whoever acquired and played McKenzie gets credit. My point is we had god awful receivers this year and last to start the season. Tell me they were a really good WR corps and then maybe you can think I missed the point. And I don't give a crap about what you and your buddies thought about KB. He sucked. By that logic I thought Sammy was going to be great! Guess we should give Whaley props there for getting a guy we "thought would be good". No, hence why we retrospectively hate Whaley's move.. and why we shouldn't treat KB with one iota of difference.

Matthews and Kelvin for one. And no not "just about everybody" thought Kelvin Benjamin was a good trade.. I didn't, Panthers FO did. Also who cares if that was the case? Their job isn't to make trades you like at the time, it's trades you like 2 years later. He's bad at evaluating the WR position thus far because most of the WRs he started this year can barely make an NFL roster just one year later. The fact that we rolled into seasons with Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Kelvin Benjamin, Jordan Matthews.. says we couldn't evaluate the position: for virtue of having one of the worst WR depth charts I can ever think of. Getting a guy like Foster is great. It's a feather in the ole cap for Beane. Something good GMs do every now and then: get an above average WR. Beane's done it once. Otherwise everybody acts like McKenzie is some superstar in the making. We should have 5 McKenzie's. Having one WR that belongs on a WR depth chart only stands out here because we started out with 5 that didn't. Fosters a 7/10, McKenzie a 4/10, KB 2/10, Matthews 1/10, Holmes 1/10, Deonte Thompson 1/10. It's not a good average. McKenzie should be the worst caliber WR we start (ie servicable). Instead he's a godsend because he's so much better than the other guys. Not saying he hasn't really given it the ole college try for a bonafide receiver, but his opinion that his WR depth chart was passable to start the season is the most damning of all. It's what he thought passed for good WRs. Guys like McKenzie set the bar for WR depth.

Duh Brady and the Patriots have created the GOAT dynasty. Anyways, don't try to parse my gibberish please haha. I'm just messing with you for your propensity to call opinions factually wrong because you believe your facts back up your opposing opinion. And then you typically reject other opinions with hypotheticals that any take is wrong because anything can happen in the future. But did Jerry Rice cheat more than the Patriots? How on God's Earth do you quantify that? This is gold.. my impression: Just absolutely factually and categorically wrong . I mean Jerry Rice only claimed to using stickum when it was legal rookie year (doubt it).. Glove technology today is way better than what Jerry was working with back then as well so your claim has no merit as the Patriots have used methods of cheating that holds an advantage regardless of the era. Would you rather I quietly disagree with you that Jerry Rice cheated more than the Patriots or jump into this most moronic debate? (I'm referring to our Beane WR evaluation talent argument from way back btw) Also super annoying to criticize 2 sentences for your not being able to read between the lines haha. Use your left brain. Do you read a poem and tell yourself "well that just felt contradictory!". Opinions are taken at face value. Either they're right (to you: as in you agree with them) or they're unknown (as in who tf will ever know who the "bigger cheater" is if someone was to disagree with you).

Ah this is rich Alpha. The man who jumps into random convos to dispute categorical opinions has a hot take of his own!WHO KNOWS IF JERRY RICR IS THE GOAT OF WR ONLY BY USING STICKUM.. Who knows if Beane has sucked at the WR position blowing picks on Matthews and KB with only Foster to show for it. These are hot takes that can never be answered in Alpha's universe. Anything's possible to Alpha. Except Jerry Rice's record breaking career I guess. Opininated takes are taken at face value Alpha. They're right or they're unknown.

A 2nd round draft pick salary dump, then cutting him to the practice squad. He'll fit in perfectly

As a southerner i have to side with IceBowl hear. You all is a waste of words. Ya'll is clearly the superior vernacular and the nation knows it. Certainly better than "youn's" from Pittsburgh. IceBowl gets it

JA does his fair share of referee b****ing

Does a bear **** in the woods? Pats fans aren't so sure about Bear anatomy.

That's basically what I was trying to say. Pretending living and abiding by one over the other is silly.

I'd argue the Giants are one of the few teams that did with Saquon Barkley. Depends on a team's definition of BPA. I just think they rewrite history (or trade up) to say they got their "BPA". Saquon Barkley was truly the BPA where he was selected. The only objective guy that thinks he's the authority on BPA is Mel Kiper. And as a GM famously said: who the hell is Mel Kiper??

Exactly. Drafting purely on need or BPA is moronic. It's a hybrid. Turns out, virtually all positions in football outside QB, P, and K can use plenty of top quality depth. why TF would the 49ers select Bobby Wagner with Aldon Smith, Navarro Bowman, Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks. They should have and did take a WR. Problem was he wasn't Alshon Jeffrey. Not BPA at the position they were even gunning for. Just draft the best players at any of the several positions you need any year. You need so many positions to reload up on every year, the chances of busting anyway are so high.. worst thing 2012 49ers could possibly do is draft a Barkevious Mingo.. marginally BPA on your list over positions you need much more of in talent. Always a strong possibility you draft a position you have loads of talents and screw it up as well. Just draft well, draft the 15 or so starting positions you actually need to reload, and pray it works out. Don't live religiously by BPA. Chances are if Trent Richardson is BPA on your board.. you missed getting Kuechly. Good job Browns.