Maine-iac

I think what most would say and I wouldn't argue is that he wasn't clutch. I would trade not competitive for not being clutch any day. I am excited that maybe Allen could someday be both but I worried that we just don't have the pieces in place or the coaching and if you are going to sell me that the future will be different I'm going to need to see more than what we just witnessed from a coaching stand point to buy it.

No I feel you. I was just elaborating on that. It's frustrating because I believe worst of all this that the current front office is mediocre at best at evaluating talent. Near as I can tell is that McDermott is great on defense and specifically coverage. Probably decent with the secondary and LB's, jury is out on DL. I can't think of a move yet on the offensive side of the ball that has made me say "that was great". Allen looks like he has good potential. After that I can't think of anything.

Except he did win. He won more than he lost and he did it without a defense. Then while completely forsaking the offense, bringing in a OC that had no plans for Taylor, and supplying no help at WR they finally get the defense to hold teams under 23ppg and lo and behold they are in the playoffs. Now what they are trying to sell us is that they are/were trading everything to build some legit "franchise QB" led offense that will put points on the board and amaze us all. When? I'm not sure it's coming. Allen looks the part, or at least you might sell me on that but with no OL, no WR's, and an OC who I'm not confident in a 5 year plan isn't what I'm looking for as a NFL fan.

Correct me if I'm wrong but even with everything that's been said in here if the Browns kicker makes the field goal in OT the Browns win that game? The Browns had a chance to win. Taylor gives you a chance to win. If you had a better QB you might have a better chance to win. If you have Peterman you most likely have no chance to win. Allen is supposed to be that better chance to win. We probably should have kept Taylor as the veteran chance to win. Instead we went with Peterman and the least likely chance to win. As they say it is what it is. You have to play Allen or you'll lose the team IMHO. Think they are bad now, wait til they've been on the field with Peterman for 3 weeks.

Anyone see the catch Robinson just made? Bears vs Packers. Who do we have that makes catches like that? We need that.

Getting away from Suggs like that was pretty cool. When WR's aren't getting open the first place I blame is the OC (not always the case but it's my go to). Next what ever happened to killer screen games. Gailey used to destroy teams with the screen game and I feel like Shady could do that just as well as Spiller used to.

Dude read it. The screen shot just illustrates what I said. I never said he SHOULD have caught the ball. I just said at least the throw got there. It would have been a hard catch.

You are right. The placement could have been a little better but he did at least get the ball there. I have seen receiver make catches like that before. I guess what I'm saying is at least he gave him a chance. Another foot in front of him would have been perfect.

I think the one thing Allen gives you that there is no stat for is simply the feeling that you might score on any given play. Allen is better with his legs and has the arm to make a team pay. He's still young and he maybe doesn't see everything or move in the pocket as slick as Brady but in general you have a feeling like he could pull something at of his butt. Peterman only leaves you wondering how many throws until the next pick. It's not really stat sheet stuff but that's just how I feel comparing the two.

The Saints scored on 8 of 9 drives and the only drive they didn't score on they fumbled the ball ............ so yes it was the defense. I never said, nor would I say, that Taylor was a savior but he was good enough to win. Not when your defense gives up a score on 8 or 9 drives, 300 yards rushing, and 6 TD's.

LOL you are going to use a game where the defense gave up 300 yards rushing and 6 TD's as your argument against Taylor?

Yeah and look at how close the game was when the QB doesn't turn it over with 2 picks. Not to mention the D doesn't give up that 66 yard TD to Wallace and we win. Tayor is clearly light years better than Peterman. At this point that is a fact. All that said Allen looked like he has a lot of potential. If only we cared more about putting some decent pass catchers on this team.

Tuel threw a pick in the end zone but if I remember right it was on a play where a guy who was blocked or fell down or something got into the play and made the pick. In other words the throw went to the right spot but a defender who never should have been there ended up there. All things considered Tuel wasn't that bad. To Tuel's credit he didn't set any records like most picks in a half or least number of 1st downs.

Said it before Jordan Mathews actually had more yards and catches than KB. That tells you all you need to know. He's a poor mans Mike Evans.

Doesn't matter how much you restock the shelves if you can't coach offense you are just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. I have no problems with McD as a coach but he seems completely unable to recognize talent on the offensive side of the ball either in players or coaches.

Let's face it. McDermott broke the offense and doesn't have anyone on his staff that can fix it. To make matters worse the personal choices for offense have been less than stellar also. A good OC could patch this together but I don't think Daboll has shown any ability to turn lemons into lemonade. Gailey would screen pass the hell out of them which would help the OL and Shady would be perfect. Roman or Lynn would let Allen run RPO's and help the run game and the WR's. At the very least they would have a more disciplined group of misfits and keep the penalties down a little bit. If they could do that it would be an improvement.

Other teams do amazing things all the time. Buffalo, not so much. We could but will we?

You mean the same way they ignored it last year? I know I'll get flamed for it but with all the draft capital we used on Allen we could have had quality recievers and OL replacements. I like Allen, I really do, but to package that much to draft a QB who isn't even ready to step in and play under the assumption that you can coach him up is asking a lot of the coaching staff in Buffalo.

I mean it's a little about Peterman. Another unnamed QB trots out there and hangs up 3 points believe me it would be ALL about him. So don't tell me it's not about Peterman. Maybe it's not all Peterman but the QB always takes the hit. I'll be honest I had/have little faith in Daboll also. Two young QB's you need a coach who has a little more of a proven track record. Daboll has ridden Gronk's coat tails and the Alabama defense.

Well Marcus Murphy doesn't suck ................... trying to be positive.

Now if they had Peterman and threw two picks are they still in the game? No turnovers, play defense, and run the ball. Throwing for a million yards is nice but not always necessary.

T.Taylor pass deep right to R.Higgins to PIT 17 for 38 yards (C.Sutton). 1st and 10 at the 17 with 2:00 left.

or not LOL .........

All of this and after the Steelers fumble Cleveland can score to tie it. Turnover free football and a good defense folks.

I forgot he even played on our team. Talk about disappointing. I still wonder if it's our WR's our out OC. Who doesn't miss Woods and Hogan at this point even as middle of the roadish as they were.