Maine-iac

I've said it before Jordan Mathews had more catches and yards than KB. He's not special.

Holy crap that's only the end of the 3rd? Seems like an eternity.

So you are saying we should bring back Kaelin Clay? :).

Honestly I thought it might be worse.

It's amazing how much more enjoyable a game is when your team doesn't make you sick to your stomach. Thank you Josh Allen.

Yeah .............. FIRST DOWN!!!!

From a fringe playoff team to utterly embarrassing. What part of the process involves going from a decent team to becoming a complete dumpster fire?

and twice as many rushing yards as our QB has passing yards .......

We were top ten in scoring both years before McDermott (and Dennison). We went from over 23 ppg to 18 ppg last year and god only knows how bad this year.

McDermott making a good case for him never being anything but a DC ever again. He inherited a top ten offense and has systematically run it into the ground with help from the rest of the Bill's organization. All those picks and cap space and we have a "project QB" with a cannon arm and unproven ability to run an NFL offense who after being drafted top ten is not even ready to start. Even if he was the rest our offensive personal is so bad we have to wonder if we wouldn't ruin him just because everything around him is so bad. Then to add to that we brought in an unproven and (when he had the chance) ineffective OC to "coach him up". All the makings of a dumpster fire. Best case scenario we get a bunch more picks to throw into the abyss next year.

Defense was never the same after Dareous was gone. Whether he was playing only 30 percent of the snaps at the time or not, the defense just never has been the same. Oh and the offense we are facing today is the offense we gave up to get what we have now. Just food for thought.

Considering the coaching staffs I'd suspect they are both in trouble. McD's vs Bowles and Daboll vs Bates is like 4 blind men trying to nail jello to a tree. Not one of them has a track record that suggests they can put an offense on the field that can score over 23 ppg. As much as everyone thought drafting that "franchise" QB would mean 300 yard passing games and the next coming of the air coryell I'd honestly be happy to see us be able to line up and run for 140 ypg and score 18 TD's on the ground ala Jacksonville last year.

I think there is little chance he repeats his record breaking performance but how many picks do you think he needs to throw to guarantee that this offense will not be able to overcome the turnovers. I think 2 picks is pretty much a death blow and I could see him doing that frequently. I'm not even a Peterman hater. I just see him as an all or nothing, the ball is coming out and someones going to catch it, type of QB. It's just a matter of who is standing there when the ball gets caught.

I think it would also be fair to say that Daboll has as much proving to do as Peterman.

We were scoring more points with Lynn and Roman just over a season ago. All either Gailey, Roman, or Lynn's teams needed was a defense that could hold teams below 22 ppg. The one thing also to remember is how many games Fitz killed us with a pick in the 4th qtr. As much as everyone lauds the passing game I'd love nothing more than to see Daboll come out and run it down peoples throats like were doing just a couple years ago.

5-11 Same gripe the last couple of years. No pass catching talent. Now we also have OL issues. Last year we were unsure about Mills and had 3 border line pro bowlers or alternates. Now we have Dawkins and 4 scrubs. Groy could be good if he returned to form from the year he replaced Woods due to injury. Don't know who they'll blame now, I suppose the QB again, but the fact is no matter the QB, the talent on offense has declined for 3 straight years and is now pretty bad.

I thought Milano played very well last year. I care about as much about Milano looking off in the preseason as I do about Peterman looking "good" in the preseason. When the season starts is when it matters. Hopefully both look like starters on an NFL team.

I think it goes with out saying they both have to learn decision making. They can both throw but I have serious doubts about the team around any QB in Buffalo. If the O-line can't pass protect and the first time KB comes up lame we have 0 legitimate receivers it's going to be very hard for any QB to learn anything getting pummeled and watching the ball drop off his receivers hands. Nothing I would love more than Zay to develop and Groy and Miller to prove better than expected but even then the talent on offense is so thin we are always one or two injuries away from toothless. I actually think more about the Rosen comparison because ultimately I feel that is where we should have went and still had the extra pick to work on the O-line. I have no problem with Allen. I just question whether this team will be able to develop him.

We? You and the turd in your pocket?

I'm sorry but if we are in the second season of this build and spent all that draft capital on a QB, saying that Peterman is the best QB on this roster is an extremely sad indictment on this franchise. To make matters worse the O-line is worse than last year and it wasn't great in pass protection last year. I can't think of one move they've made to make the offense better than, or even as good as for that matter, before McDemott got here. When we are scoring over 23ppg game again somebody wake me up.

Peterman's quick release will get you 20 picks by the end of the season. He's the best passer at throwing on time and at a WR but he's going to throw it whether he should or not. McCarron will most likely be the most similiar to Taylor which believe it or not is everyones best chance of winning (at the moment) and Allen seems to have a lot of talent but the question is still there about being up to NFL speed and do they want to throw him out there. Peterman is simply all or nothing and he may have a few flashes but he's no Vinny Testaverde ............. or is he :)?

Nice post Shaw. I'm not there yet but I feel it. Allen has shown some things. The new offense has shown some things. I already believed McDermott could put a defense together but post Dareous I want to see how the run D holds up. All that said, as skeptical as I've been, I could see things coming together. Like I said I'm not all the way there yet but maybe, just maybe we can put it together. It's possibly the Charlie Brown syndrome that these same Bills have given us for so many years. If I had a dollar for ever year we've finished the first 5 or 6 games looking like this year was the year only to fall flat. Still I'd settle for that excitement and the hope that we don't. Just need to see some regular season games and signs that when things count we can do this.

Just my two cents but I'd take Willis, Lewis, or Urlacher over Derrick Thomas or Derrick Brooks on any day that ends in Y. I'm not trying to argue Darryl Talley onto that list but I think he was a very good LB and in many ways as valuable as Bennet ever was. PS with the love for pass rushers where is Kevin Greene?

I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think McDermott can turn the offense around and Daboll's list of accomplishments was not enough to sell me on him either. On paper he actually looks worse than Dennison if that's possible. Now we have a big armed project that we've wagered a 1st and 2 2nd round picks on and will have to push into the starting lineup by at least next year. Defense or no defense if Daboll doesn't get it together and manage to bring this QB along it will be yet another pass in the repeated cycle from bad defense to bad offense and around again.

They scored 399 points. There's only 5 teams in Bill's history that scored more. They scored more than every team Kelly led except 3. Coaches will make or break a team. Clearly McDemott can put together a defense but with his choice of Dennison at OC the first time and the horrible management of the offense throughout the year I have little faith that he can get that side of the ball straight so he need an offensive guru who can put all that together for him. In my mind Allen, McCarron or whoever they throw out there it's all riding on Daboll. For the record I don't think Daboll in any of the next 2 years will come anywhere near scoring 25 ppg. I've been wrong before so here's to hoping I'm way off.