Maine-iac

....... because Preston and Ragland were HORRIBLE!!!

Hey on the plus side they ran 3 plays without getting a penalty on the OL!!!

Remember when the Saints game was Taylors fault? Here we go again. Pretty much the defense sucks.

Great recievers, good OL, and a coach that KNOWS offense. Really a perfect situation. The OL worries me and the lack of WR's certainly doesn't help but the complete lack of proven offensive coaching is what I really fear in developing that high scoring offense that everyone had but wanted more passing.

Maybe if we had current players that produced it wouldn't be happening as much.

and 31 rushing ........ he'd be leading our team for the season with that total in both categories.

Nice a Clay sighting!!!

This is the part that really kills me. Less talent is hard to play with but less talent and a ton of drive killing penalties is coaching.

I kind of agree with the dollars and cents of it but the hardest thing to replace is a pass rushing D-lineman who can also stop the run. I agree Dareus wasn't every down and frustrating with his problems but he was still the difference (or at least it would seem) between pressure and no pressure on the QB's and an ability to shut down the run. Then there's Watkins and Ragland shooting around out there for KC. Two early round picks that we either haven't been able to replace or have spent even earlier round picks filling the same spot.

Some how I feel like this all started when they got rid of Dareus.

Watkins tearing the Steelers a new one at the moment.

Someone tell me what part of the building process requires us to suck in all phases of the game?

While I think this is a valid comparison you have to include that while Goff was talented and did much better from year 1 to year 2 the biggest factor in his development may well have been Fisher getting canned and McVay coming in. I actually have a decent amount of confidence that Allen has what it takes I'm just not sure we have a coach on the offensive side of the ball that can bring it out. We certainly don't have any Sean McVays waiting to develop him.

I can't disagree but would add that too much of anything will either get him killed or be completely ineffective. The idea is to mix it up enough to stop the front 7 from attacking as much. Even when mixing it up there is a chance that the defense will guess right and get pressure. Someone posted vids of Allen's games last year and the first one I watched he took off running and got decleated. There's always a chance the QB will get hit.

I'd love to see some well executed screen passes and give Allen some RPO's. He's big and mobile like Luck or Wentz. Maybe he's not going to take off like Taylor or Jackson but look how Bortles killed us last year. Of course we want Allen to learn to throw from the pocket but we also do not want him to get killed there. Have some decent situational awareness. If you get a few first downs maybe throw in some no huddle and get them good and tired, take advantage of that. A lot of it depends on what they think Allen's command of the offense is at this point.

22 teams averaged 20 ppg or more last year according to ESPN. If we can't do better than the 23 ranked offense then he should be fired. oops 21 ........ close enough.

I personally am not judging him after that performance. I had huge doubts long before that train wreck. Notice Perry Fewell isn't a DC anywhere. You know why? Because everywhere he coached the defense's gave up a ton of points. People can like Daboll all they want. If his offenses don't score more than 20 ppg on average, hopefully significantly more, then he is going to end up a TE coach again and sooner rather than later.

Daboll was so good in Cleveland ......... no strike that. He was so good in Miami ...... wait no not there either. He was so good at ... well... coaching Gronk. If that doesn't deserve a shot destroying the highest draft pick we used on a QB in 20 years I don't know what does. McDermott already proved he can't spot talent or coach offense last year. We need a coaching staff that can coach both sides of the ball.

Isn't Pettine coaching the Packer's D this year? I think they'll show much better this year.

Not sure about Jackson but keeping our 2nd round pick and getting Rosen would have sat well with me.

Another catch that looks like our game. KB doesn't make the catch Pryor does. A few plays before the TD. I'd take at least 3 of the Jets receivers over any 1 of ours.

Now that I think about it I don't see laundry on the field every time the Jets snap the ball either. It certainly doesn't hurt if you don't shoot yourself in the foot at the start of every drive.

I agree with what everyone is saying but I think the larger story here is that the WR's we have don't make plays like that and Robbie Anderson did. The throw in both cases was less than perfect and in both cases you can't really blame the WR if they don't catch it but Anderson did and Foster didn't and that is usually the way the ball bounces in Buffalo.

Jet's seem to have more talent on offense plain and simple. We had OC's who could run the ball and get guys open deep. We went from having multiple recievers who could take the top off a defense to having a group of WR's that teams check off as a vacation day. Allen and Darnold could probably be almost interchangeable. Put Mills, Ducasse, and Miller in front of Darnold and ask him to throw to Zay and KB and I'm not sure he'd be doing as well. I still have hope Zay will come around but that is doesn't have a ton of life left. KB can't be slow and have bad hands and expect to last much longer either.

That throw to Anderson was almost exactly like the throw to Foster. Anderson reaches back and take the ball away.