Rock-A-Bye Beasley

I know that’s my point. Beane would have gladly given him that contract. It’s great for both sides.

There’s literally no risk signing him to the contract the raiders gave him.

What are you trying to say? His new deal is only 2 years guaranteed so after next year he can be cut with only 300k dead cap. You think that was the deal breaker for Beane with all the cap space we have this year and next?

Why would they be willing to trade for him but not pay him? They have plenty of cap space it’s only 3 years and the last year isn’t even guaranteed. Don’t be dense. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/antonio-brown-6702/

Take the best available offensive player. (will be the best non-QB offensive prospect?) Then get who's left of the elite defensive players or TE in round 2 or trade up to late rd 1.

Patriots have the best QB and best coach of all time. They’re an anomaly. Atlanta and Julio lost in OT in Super Bowl to them. Watkins had what would have been the game winning catch at the 1 yard line if Dee Ford hadn’t gone Offside in AFC championship. He’s better than any of our WRs. You’re telling me the Pats wouldn’t rather have any of those WRs? They tried to upgrade with Gordon last year. They smashed records with moss. You’re basically saying elite wide receivers don’t make your offense better. It’s an insane argument.

This is news to me. I was going by other posters who said all DTs last year played around 40%, my mistake. Although those posters were trying to make the case FOR drafting a DT at 9.

Oliver was rated worse at pass rushing than Tillery on both 0 tech and 3 tech snaps. Star has the worst non-QB contract in the league. We can’t really even cut him for two more years after this. That’s why he’s going to get snaps. He’s the highest paid player on the team. McDermott runs a rotation Dline and all DTs last year got 40% of snaps or so I’ve heard from other posters here. Harrison Phillips is Kyle Williams replacement. Everyone loved the pick now they’re ready to draft a DT at 9 one year later?

This is just a difference of opinion. Right now we have zero elite WR. I would prefer we have 3. Was KC ok with having Tyreek? No they shelled out big money for Sammy. Aside from what you think of him/his contract they weren’t satisfied with an all-pro WR and TE as their weapons. As for DT, you can absolutely get a 3 tech from a non top 10 pick, free agency (Richardson 1 year 9mil), or trade (Dareus). Gerald McCoy is still out there as a trade possibility and Jerry Tillery graded out better as a pass rusher than Oliver. Even if we add a “starter” at DT odds are he won’t be playing more than 60% of snaps. McDermott runs a rotation on the D line. I’ve seen many poster cite a stat where all DT from last year played around 40% of snaps.

a 4th DT to get 40% of snaps is a good use of a top 10 pick? What about our highest paid player (Star)? Or our 3rd round pick from a season ago that everyone said was Kyle's replacement? Or a 2nd rounder we picked up during the season form a division rival who only left for personal reasons? We had the worst WRs in the league last year. We signed a 30 and 29 year old with a combined one 1,000 yard season. That position will be improved but I'd be shocked if they're better than average as it stands. I'm excited about Foster's potential, but let's not assume he's a sure fire starter after a few good games.

Yes I would like the better/elite player and a better chance at hitting on that. (WR is also our biggest need) This is the second thread this month trying to show why we don't need an elite WR. Both times the OP has used an experiment set up to prove their point. While I genuinely appreciate the effort, neither has swayed my opinion that an elite WR would help this offense, and Allen's development, more than anything else.

Right now I think the most wins is 6. I’m more wondering how many McDermott special blowouts we will have. This offense could still be real bad again.

Rodgers is enough to make this point pointless

There are currently 5 positive threads about free agency on the first page of this forum, and one questioning how much the oline has been upgraded. So I'm not really sure what negativity you're talking about.

Just did a very similar one on TDN: 9 DK Metcalf, WR Mississippi 40 Jeffery Simmons , IDL Mississippi State 74 Michael Deiter , OT Wisconsin 112 Darrell Henderson , RB Memphis 131 Nate Davis , IOL Charlotte 147 Isaac Nauta , TE Georgia 158 Derrek Thomas , CB Baylor 181 Anthony Nelson , EDGE Iowa 225 Hunter Renfrow , WR Clemson 228 Bryce Love , RB Stanford

Sheldon Richardson got 10mil/yr only 3 years. Part of what makes Stars contact bad is flexibility. We can't cut him without serious dead cap until after 2021 (after 2020 it's still 5.2 dead cap). He's the highest paid player on a team that uses him 40% of snaps and he can only really be used effectively on run plays, leaving the defense open to coordinators seeing him on the field and calling a pass play. Star is the 9th highest paid DT in the entire league. Impressed yet?

I keep seeing people stating that McDermott rotates the DTs more than others as a reason FOR drafting one at 9. I saw the number around 40% of snaps for each DT. Even if the new guy gets more snaps it's a bad use of assets to use a top 10 pick on a guy that gets 40 or even 60 percent of snaps. Rahter sign a guy like Suh to fill that role and use such a high pick on someone who is on the field every snap or close to it. See above. And Star was a bad signing. We drafted Harrison to be Kyle's replacement. Kyle is gone and we added Jordan Phillips.If we need another DT get a free agent draft one later since this class is so deep apparently.

a rotational player in the 1st?

Didn’t McGahee say the only thing to do in Buffalo is Dave and Busters? i think it’s hilarious to picture him heading home from practice or the gym and heading over there

Id probably cut both. But if I had to choose probably keep bodine

You didn’t cut Vlad a mere duck ass?

No it needs to be first team all pro to win the super bowl that season. Just being as rediculous as the op.

You might as well say "are elite receivers better than good receivers?" You're clearly trying to justify the idea that the Bills don't have an elite WR. OF COURSE having better players makes it easier to win, BY DEFINITION. Then you add on a completely random test of FIRST team all pro needing to be on the superbowl WINNER in order to disprove your hypothesis. So when's the last first team all pro DT to be on a superbowl winner? Oh it's been a while guess that position isn't as important as you think and we shouldn't try to get better there.

I'm sure their teams would be glad to part with them What is this thread ?

What happened to Harrison Phillips and Star? Everyone loved them last year. Beane was a genius for drafting Kyle's replacement a year early and spending 10mil a year to fill the gap left by Dareus. by the way from Ledyard: "Route-Running - Let's talk about what is his fault: Metcalf needs to show better attention to detail in his patterns at times, breaking his routes off more exactly, showing a better awareness of the sideline and being more efficient with his footwork. Outside of his control however, is an Ole Miss offense that asked him to predominantly run hitches, curls, comebacks and nine routes, operating only on a vertical plane that made things very simple for defensive backs who had done their tape study. How Metcalf managed his production is a testament to his other-worldly talent in a scheme that didn't make things easy on him."