Rock-A-Bye Beasley

Yes corner is a problem opposite White. Ragland was traded for a 4th before ever stepping foot on the field for us. Why don't we start trading 2nds for future 4ths while we're at it. You brought up the dead cap and Dareus is costing us 14mil in dead cap. Do you have a short term memory issue? are you able to follow the conversation?

like who? Darby, watkins, ragland? all on rookie deals, We signed star and dumped dareus when we could have just kept Dareus for less. We have a QB on a rookie deal, we can afford a few overpaid players.

Watkins Dareus, Ragland, Darby, Mccarron Coleman is dead cap as well

he didn't create all this dead cap. Also, the dead cap excuse isn't even a good reason to have Nate Peterman.

How about not putting us in this cap situation to begin with?

In the last 14 games we have thrown under 100 yards 5 times. The Browns that went 1-32 only did that once. 0-16 lions also once. Our production needs to be adjusted to league average to show how truly terrible it is.

loser mentality

they finally just got rid of the QB position altogether

What about our strategy of trading young talent for late round picks?

We lost of course, and I remember coming home from the Sabres game and hearing people react to it on the train.

A team that has one win. You mean like the colts who beat us by over 30? Get used to it They picked a project for a team that has nothing in place on offense.

Wouldn't it have been great to take a QB when we need one, Mahomes/Watson, let him sit behind Tyrod then take Allen and let him sit behind Mahomes for a few years learning how to play QB?

change the subject then laugh at me. Mahomes is putting up numbers never seen before. Those other two were not, and just because one got injured and the other regressed doesn't mean antything to the fact that McDermott passed on him when we needed a QB

yes. they're both better than anyone we've had

get used to it get used to it get used to it

they are good just admit it to yourself i know it hurts. you'll be on the wrong side of history on this one. Can't use that excuse. We are a black hole for QB? so they can't be criticized for passing on a guy who has thrown 22TD in his first 8 games? You are objectively incorrect.

It actually shouldn't be, when they're this bad it's technically trolling.

Is that short for retards? This team has thrown for under 100 yards passing in 5 of their last 13 games. Most of those were blowouts where they should have been able to get some garbage time passing yards but still could not. So I don't think it's really that crazy to think maybe this coach isn't the best option to develop a QB. Those that want him fired have legitimate concerns with examples of game-time and personnel decisions and stats to back up their stance. All you have done is call them retards.

This is so wrong. First of all this Zero net cap effect thing you keep saying. If The Bills don't trade for Coleman there's zero net cap effect. Once we trade for him we have his salary on the books, and once released yes his salary is gone but we incur the cap penalty. So would we have 3mil in cap penalty if we hadn't traded for him? Same goes for all the others we signed then released, but those aren't even the main issue. My real problem is with Darues, Glen, Watkins, and Ragland. First of all 3 of those guys were on rookie deals. Ragland had never touched the field so we basically traded a 2nd round pick for a future 4th. As for the rest, you're saying how much money we save in the future, and while that's true the counter argument is that we could still afford them even if they are overpaid. They are talented young players and we have a QB on a rookie deal. You say we are in great shape cap wise, but there's no way (hopefully) we can spend 90million on whatever free agents are left over after NYJ and other teams get the pick of the litter. We could absolutely afford Dareus instead of Star and Watkins even on a franchise tag over whatever aging WR decides to come here in the offseason. But that's their choice the wanted their own players. This cap situation is completely their choice. Hopefully it works out, but to say they had no choice because of the situation Whaley left them in is dishonest.

Did you give Whaley credit for the trade down and White pick before Mahomes started breaking records? Or was that McDermott's genius defensive mind? Be honest

These homers were giving McDermott credit for trading down and getting white until Mahomes started lighting up the scoreboard and setting records.

I'm with you up until the last 2 sentences. I was on board for a rebuild and still am, but the complete incompetence on the offensive side is making me think there's no chance it will be successful, and even if Josh has potential it will be squandered by this coach. It's just TOO bad. even the Browns the last two years only had one game under 100 yards passing. This regime has had FIVE in the last 13 games.

You said the vast majority of rookie QBs struggle. Then point out a couple that ended up being good while conveniently leaving out all the others which are WAY more common. It’s a respectable opinion for any Bills fan to have questions about whether a prospect with Allen’s history can develop. Especially when you see this team pass for under 100 yards 5 times in the last 13 games. There has to be at least some blame or at least questions about whether this coaching staff can develop a QB. Im not impatient. I knew they would be bad this year. But it is never acceptable for any offense to be this bad. I don’t care what your excuses are.

Playoffs?

Why do I get the feeling it's the same people who thought this team would win 9-10 games before the season that are now saying have patience? What about other teams that were bad at offense but now are still bad at offense? You can't just pick a good team then go back and point out a time they were bad to prove that the Bills will be good.