HomeskillitMoorman

I don't agree he's a good coach...but even if you believe that, you are still in excuse-making mode for McD. You can literally go back and re-read the post I responded to and this one, you are flip-flopping...you are acknowledging that he's not a good game manager and his late-game blunders this year, even though they have been going on for YEARS now and this is no different than any of them. His QB just hasn't been elite enough to bail him out this time and so he's getting exposed for who he has always been. You did in the post that I responded to say that you think McD should be fired if we don't make the playoffs...but if we make the playoffs again, it doesn't change that he's still a poor game manager, has no composure whatsoever late in games, and after 7 years on the job is STILL not prepared for late game strategy. All of that has to do with work ethic. He doesn't have it. That does not change if we simply make the playoffs. Basically, if 17 bails him out once again...he should stay? You changed the stance in the post you responded to me with saying no he shouldn't be here if we just make the playoffs, which that makes it more rational. But then you're going back to Dorsey being "the" problem, which I'm sure is how you scapegoated Frazier exactly the same way for years. Dorsey was "a" problem. McD is the one who hires these coordinators and lets them stay, and they operate through his philosophy. He is the Head Coach, this is something you just don't seem to be able to grasp. He IS responsible. Yes, we could have been much better with Brady running the offense for the whole year...WHO'S FAULT IS THAT??? And lets say we run the table and make the playoffs and McD chokes again as usual and we bring him back...if we have a good season next year with Brady, he's probably going to be in talks for a head coaching job, right? And if he gets poached, we're back in the same boat of hoping and praying McD picks a good OC while still shouldering his horrific game management and late game failures? In what world is this a good plan? It's this simple...we are not going to win a SB with a coach of McD's caliber, not now or ever. At best he's a major obstacle we would have to overcome to do it, at worst....we know what's at worst. Why do that to ourselves? He really should be gone no matter what if you are evaluating him for himself, not based on the way he might get bailed out once again for "just enough" results. The apologists have an inability to evaluate him for himself, not whether the QB bails him out or not.

Did we blow it like we would in real life?

Dude you absolutely are a McScapegoat excuse maker. I remember just a couple or so weeks ago debating with you on it and you were making excuses every which way for him. Sure, Dorsey earned his firing, but McD hired him and kept him in that position for a year and a half. Just like he kept Frazier for years. He scapegoated Frazier and then does the same exact loser soft prevent zone at the end of games that he does. And the late game coaching blunders and poor game management have been going on for years, literally since year 1. This is nothing new. He's just had #17 here to constantly bail him out until this season. It's hard for me to understand why people like yourselves can't evaluate this until things go completely off the rails, and even now you're still saying he should go only "IF" we miss the playoffs! It's truly unreal. All of his blunders and gaffes are still blunders and gaffes even if we make the playoffs. We've wasted 6 years of an elite talent at QB because of this trashbag coach who has never put in the slightest bit of work to improve himself or his preparation. That's the hard truth.

Me too. For years I was in that same boat of all the negativity if I said one bad thing about McD. They’ll probably never admit how wrong they were, but at least many have come around.

I think we’ve found something offensively. But we still have McD. Chiefs 31 Bills 27

That was bad even for an inexperienced head coach though. He’s always been incredibly unprepared.

To be fair, Beane never condemned Araiza or anything like that, I believe he even implied that he believed him.

Haha, no. Ben Johnson please.

I think this makes what McDermott has done this year even worse though. We've had these positives and are STILL going to miss the playoffs with an elite QB. The Gabe part though is not a credit to the Bills. We've known this for a long time now. Being late to the party is not a positive for Beane.

So what is it that McD excels at? He’s a horrific game manager, the team is completely undisciplined, his D gives it up on every big drive, he has trouble hiring good coordinators…I really don’t understand why people still want him here. Truth is, his QB has been bailing him out for years. He’s a bottom of the barrel coach on his own.

IT WAS ALL FRAZIER’S FAULT!

Hoping to just have a non-partisan discussion just about this topic without the toxic Left-Right finger-pointing that dominates most of the threads here, if that's possible. The extremes on this topic are both equally positions that I don't like at all and find dangerous. - I do think a child should not be able to get a gender-transitioning surgery without parental consent. I know some people feel that they shouldn't be able to even with parental consent but I don't really want to get into that part here, I'm talking more about the philosophy of parental rights. I also know that's not a perfect solution as I can't really imagine what it would be like to have gender dysphoria and being told to wait until you're an adult - probably much easier said than done. And some kids have bad parents who would have a lot of issues with their children if they knew they wanted to do that. But ultimately I just have to come back to some of those surgeries being something you can't really go back from, or it's very difficult and there's a good chunk of those children, certainly not all of them, that grow up and don't have those feelings or dysphoria anymore. - The other side of the extreme spectrum is those who are advocating that a counselor or therapist has to notify the parents if their child is telling them about any of these feelings or issues they might be having even if they are not getting any kind of medication or surgical procedure done. To me, this can be just as dangerous. This is stripping away access to help and support that young children might not otherwise seek out if they know their parents are going to be looped in. I can't imagine if I had something like gender dysphoria or those feelings, it would probably be beyond humiliating to have my parents find out about it and that they'll always know. In some cases it's much worse. I grew up in Foster care and if I ever had anything like that or in my case if I was even just gay and told a counselor about it who told my foster parents, I know for 100% fact that at least 2 of my foster "dads" would have beat the absolute crap out of me. If I had to deal with any of those things, I would have had to just hold it in instead of seeking help if the laws said the parents had to be notified. And things like that can lead to teen suicides and all kinds of damage. There is no solution that's perfect here...but I think it's gotta be somewhere in the middle where children aren't able to get these surgeries but that they also have access to help and the confidence of privacy for it. I don't believe that parental rights should cross that line.

Haha that’s where I am. Two guys that aren’t actual Presidential candidates that are unlikeable and can be bought.

If this comes true, I wouldn’t blame Allen and Diggs or anyone else if they ask to be traded. It’s a completely hopeless situation here if McD is back.

All of our other colossal meltdowns don’t matter? Accountable? By firing McD? I believe we are.

That sounds better. Obviously #1 I hope he didn’t do it. But if he did, we gotta get out of that deal.

That’s just devastating. He would still stick against the cap if he’s suspended or we released him because of this?

Way too many pages to go through. Can we get out of his contract?

The team is good enough…the head coach is not. He will cost us at least 1 more in these next 5.

I'm sure he wants to so he can scapegoat someone else when the defense gives it up when it matters most. He got away with it for years when people would just go off on Frazier and gave McD absolutely no accountability for it. He probably misses it.

That was so embarrassing. Drew was so bad in that game.

It's been a problem for years, people have just been blind to it because the QB was bailing him out. He hasn't put in the slightest bit of work to improve himself as a Head Coach for over 7 years, no reason to think it's immediately going to happen for year 8. It's time to cut the cord, it's long overdue.

Not if McD can help it Refreshing to hear. If it was McD, we might've heard that he didn't get what he wanted but someone else forgot to relay the message.

Are you happy he chose to kneel with 20 seconds left in regulation with an elite QB rather than try to win the game? Or that he burned an extra timeout to let the Eagles regroup and take their time to take the 58 yard field goal to tie it and take us down to 1 time out? Or that we went to a completely soft prevent zone to let them easily catch any short pass they wanted with more than enough time on the clock to drive right down the field without resistance or doing it again in OT? Do we also need to go back to his entire history of late game postseason gaffes or even just the games from this year? Look at some of the teams that are in line to make the playoffs who have a QB nowhere close to Josh. This is embarrassing that all McD's been able to do with this team is go .500 and needing a miracle to make the playoffs now.

He’s had Allen to bail him out for a long time. This year he’s finally just been fully exposed. He’s no different than Jauron.