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Predicting Mahomes to be this good this fast was almost impossible. While he threw for a ton of yards in college and completed a high number of passes, neither of those things was unusual for a quarterback from Texas Tech. When it came to intangibles, he wasn't a winner, he didn't start a ton of games, and he tended to throw a lot of interceptions. Additionally, his mechanics looked kind of bad on tape. He stood out because he had a massive arm and was a uniquely gifted athlete. Sound familiar? When compared to Watson, he was nowhere near as special coming out when it came to the intangibles. And when you watched Trubisky, his tape kind of screamed, pro style QB who appeared ready despite a low number of starts. I am going to be honest, I disliked Mahomes about as much as I did Allen. Never saw it coming. Thought for sure Watson would be the best of the three. But I give a ton of respect to Reid. I think he is an amazingly underrated coach. And as for not taking those other great quarterbacks, he already had McNabb who is another underrated NFLer.

Still think it was a great move. Problem here is everyone said they were ready to deal with the ups and downs of drafting a rookie qb, but in the back of their mind expected the rookie to be Tom Brady.

Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Patrick Mahomes. Id even settle for Russ Wilson. Again, coaches are all pretty much the same. If they have a good qb they win. If they don't, they won't

Two things I find amazing: 1. That this guy is starting in another NFL Game 2. That no time in the last three weeks did the Bills sign a quarterback to prepare to start if the 35 year old who hadn't been hit in three years happened to get injured.

Those are all things you need to weigh. If you have the first pick you probably aren't trading down much further than five. So if you trade down to five, still get an elite talent at a position of need and then add a future 1st round pick as well I think you need to consider it. Basically, do you want Nick Bosa or would you rather have both Greedy Williams and N'Keal Harry?

Now this I agree with.

I feel the same way, but when you're drafting top 3 you probably cant take a wideout.

This is one of the players I would hate to see go. Wonder if Rodger Saffold is involved?

Right. Pegula sat down with the players coalition, who anyone with eyes and ears knows uses the media to help their agenda and said: "Hey guys, I totally get what this is all about and support it, but it's costing me money so can we chill? Then he put a 1.1 Billion Dollars in a ditch, poured gasoline on it and lit it on fire all the while doing a jig. Give me a break.

It's always darkest before the dawn my friend. I would argue the loss of both Incognito and Wood have had the most profound impact to the Bills season. However, if you'd like to point to the trade of Watkins, which happened prior to the playoff season they had last year, Cordy Glenn who played in all of 6 of the 17 games in the playoff season they had last year, Preston Brown: a middle of the road linebacker on a defense that was statistically worse than the one we currently have, and Tyrod Freaking Taylor who is sitting on the bench for a team who just fired their head coach, please be my guest. I posted on the Buffalo Bills Message Board three years ago, so what do I know. I watch the games, I know they stink. But, I am also not going to let my emotions get the better of my common sense. They needed to stop being 8-8 every year and grow a pair to do everything they could to find a Franchise Quarterback and not settle for a new incarnation of Kyle Orton every year.. They did that, so I am not going to walk around perpetually upset that a rookie isn't Aaron Rodgers or even worse because the coach claps too much. The bottom line is this. If Allen sucks, Beane and McDermott are gone. If he doesn't they wont be.

So you liked it then?

Let me help: Of course. Why would you think that. I mean we only let a very good marginally talented MLB, who was a liability in coverage, go so thy we could draft his replacement. Traded an very good often late for meetings, and overweight LT, go so that we could move up in the draft and attempt to get a franchise quarterback, because linebackers and left tackles mean relatively nothing if you don’t have one. draft the replacement LB. Traded a wr we should have never drafted that we spent multiple picks on just to acquire more picks so that we could get a QB that’s a rookie who has started five games and not a single person has a real idea of how he will turn out beyond conjuncture. that’s almost the same as the QB they could have had last year and not used any extra picks to acquire. All so we could suffer a bad season and start posting revisionist history about players, including the former quarterback who were also at times insufferable to watch.

All for it. Have loved having him here and the trade to get him is easily one of the best deals the Bills have ever made. But, at this point the writing is on the wall.

At this point take the 4th and the cap savings and lets move on.

Honestly think we will see McCoy sent away. I think they used him enough last night to show he wasnt injured anymore, but then cut his carries back in the second half to save him from injury. Two darkhorse candidates not on the Bills would be Eli Manning to Jacksonville and Leonard Fournette out of Jacksonville.

I've taken vacation days after a primetime game. Oddly enough I made it in early this morning. However, I did call it a night after the Patriots first touchdown last night.

I dont think the Bills are going to be stoked about he and his agent using them to try and draw interest from other teams. Pretty clear the guy doesn't want to play here if he is currently weighing his options between sitting on his butt in Ohio or playing in the NFL.

Call him a bum if you want, but over the last 25 some games he has been as productive as the other bum we decided we wanted to deal away a 3rd round pick for. If you sign him and trade Benjamin, even for a 7th round pick, you probably get the same amount of production and save over 4 million dollars doing so. At the very least he adds some speed to the group.

Can see Mike McCarthy in Cleveland next year. If he isn't fired I would assume they hire Eric Bieniemy from KC.

He said "Air Allen"

Still would take Mayfield, everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

100% agree. Haven't found much joy in watching college or the NFL. Was spoiled last year with the Bills and Mayfield at Olk.

Paid $300 for my son to attend his camp for a week. Jim autographed one item for each kid who attended. The autograph pretty much pays for the camp.

Think he could be a top ten back in the league if he played for a team who used him correctly. Gase seems to be the type of coach that allows his ego get in the way of common sense. Drake is a free agent after next year. I would love to see him here.

I like Kenyan Drake a ton. I dont understand why Miami doesn't use him more in every aspect of the offense.