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All 22 Review: Bills vs Patriots
thenorthremembers replied to thenorthremembers's topic in The Stadium Wall
It looked like the Patriots were trying to disguise Cover 1 pre snap. Its cover 1 man, but the weak side safety didn't declare until post snap. Regardless you have 1 on 1 with Kincaid on a safety with a middle deep strong side safety that isn't likely to make a play on it. Agree he went into a half field read but thats the frustrating part. Have screenshots of the plays just cant post them. -
Going to give these a shot. Likely not going to get too far into the weeds on it because it takes a lifetime to watch these things, but its helpful from a fan perspective to get an idea of the nuts and bolts. I'll start with the offense and go by half. If I have time I'll add the defense later on. 1st Half Summary- Blame it on the coordinator I think it's often too easy to blame coordinators for bad football, especially if you haven't watched the game tape to get a real understanding of what prompted certain calls. That said, in the 1st half the Bills were essentially running the throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks scheme. The personnel groupings and formations were all over the place. They tried everything from 10 personnel with 4 wide and trips, to 21 and 22 personnel with bunch formations, often using one wideout. It was like Joe Brady was trying to reinvent the wheel of high school play calling. Brady came into the game knowing the Patriots run a heavily man-based defense, and most of what they were trying to do was win outside the hashes with wideouts who can't beat man coverage. The game plan in the first half was lazy, and akin to a coach deciding to watch zero tape of the opposing defense. Notes: Its man defense- where are the crossers, digs, and slants? Multiple instances of wideouts and tight ends running short of the sticks Need to start running more out of the shotgun 2nd Half Summary- Blame it on the Quarterback The Bills were in 11 personnel around 25% of the time in the first half. In the second half they stopped getting cute and ran 11 personnel 72% of the time. On top of that they finally ran a crossing route! A lot has been made about the wideouts being bad in this offense. While they aren't speed demons who can split two high safety or win on go routes, they can produce when asked to do what they do well. That said, the QB needs to be who he was in the first four games and take what the defense gives him. Sadly, that's not the QB the Bills got in the second half. While he was more productive, the All 22 showed he was dead set on doing what he wanted rather than taking what was there. Have screenshots of the plays below but no clue how to post. 5:17 Left 3rd Quarter- Kincaid absolutely smokes the safety at the same time Josh tries the back shoulder to Shavers. If he waits a second longer, he likely has Kincaid for 6. 11:18 Left 4th Quarter- Crossing route is wide open to Knox. Josh comes off the read. 5:11 Left 4th Quarter- Josh doesnt take the easy outbreaking route to Kincaid. Instead he throws to Cook on the sideline covered and is lucky to get a PI. 5:01 Left 4th Quarter- This one is on Samuel- Call looks to be a Go or a Post. Corner drops off 10 yards. Instead of breaking off his route to a out or comeback Samuel keeps running towards the CB. Would have been an easy 6-yard gain plus space to run. 4:52 Left 4th- Josh doesnt take the open crosser to Coleman. Cook doesnt block free rusher. Sack 2:43 Left 4th- Josh has Cook wide open on the crosser, doesnt take it for an easy 5 yard gain. Also has Palmer on an outbreaking route for 7 or more. Scrambles, has Knox open coming back towards the hash for a 17 yard pass, doesnt take it. Launches a pass across the field to Coleman in the back of the endzone. Out of bounds. 2:31 Left 4th- Shakir and Kincaid immediately open on crosser short of sticks. Johnson has single coverage on a wheel route to the endzone-why isnt Cook in the game! Samuel wide open at the front of opposite side of the endzone- likely an impossible throw. Game Summary- The good news is the Bills beat themselves. I am not sure what Joe Brady was doing in the first half of the game. I am also not sure what Josh Allen was doing in the 2nd half. The Bills need another outside WR, but they arent as hapless there as I thought before I watched the film. Put this one away, dont shoot yourself in the foot next time you play the Pats. The Patriots didnt do anything great on defense. I have every expectation that Allen wont play like this in the second meeting. Player Grades Bull Market The Offensive Line- They lost a few reps but otherwise they were fantastic. Specifically, the left side of the line played very well Kincaid- He had a great night and it would have been even better if he played more reps. I dont care if its as a slot, outside WR, or either tight end position, he needs to be in the game unless he's injured or needs a breather. His blocking still leaves a little to be desired. But outside of Cook or Allen he is the best weapon the Bills have on offense. Better than I Expected Dawson Knox- Not flashy but he did his job. He was open when he needed to be, whether the QB saw him or not. Josh Palmer- Not a game breaker by any means but he is the best outside receiver the Bills have in terms of understanding leverage and route running. Needs to be on the field more. Bear Market Keon Coleman- He caught a touchdown but the tape isn't good. He flat out can't beat corners off the line in man coverage. The coordinator doesn't put him in advantageous positions. Much better in the second half because Brady finally started calling crossing routes. But he is a very limited player at this point in his career. Shavers- Not to dunk on a kid that barely made the team but for those of you waiting for him to be the savior at WR, stop.
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The Refs and this “rigged” league
thenorthremembers replied to Big Blitz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Agree fully. There are 14 referee crews in the NFL. I dont know most of their names. That said, if we get Houchuli, Hussey, Vinovich, Cheffers, or Blakeman I know there is a chance for tomfoolery. -
Depends on what we are talking about. If we are looking for deep crossers sure, we need that. If we are talking strictly about Gos, Posts, and Corners, it's not something the current personnel is very good at. We dont have the speed at WR to split two high safeties, and even if we did Josh isnt particularly good at throwing those routes. One of our quarterbacks' biggest issues going back to his rookie year is deep ball accuracy.
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The Refs and this “rigged” league
thenorthremembers replied to Big Blitz's topic in The Stadium Wall
Its beyond me to try and understand how and why refs do or dont call penalties. Offensive lineman have the worst job in the league. Pancake blocks are irrelevant because the ref is just going to call holding whether you did or not. Some team's secondaries can manhandle wideouts and other teams cant. You cant run rub routes unless you can. Just get rid of the frickin one yard beyond the line of scrimmage rule. A rub route is a rub route. The NFL has overcomplicated its games to a point where the referees play way too big a part in its outcome. -
No More Whiteouts again ever in Buffalo Bills history
thenorthremembers replied to Another Fan's topic in The Stadium Wall
I'd be more than ok never having a white out again. Come up with something specific to the Bills and Buffalo. -
The Upcoming Trade Deadline: 2025 Edition
thenorthremembers replied to ryguy101's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think it makes sense for both teams. The Saints have him for the rest of this year, and all of next on the 5th year option. They are already 14 million over the cap for next season. They get cap space and draft picks. We get a borderline #1 WR. Thay said, its likely just a pipe dream. -
The Upcoming Trade Deadline: 2025 Edition
thenorthremembers replied to ryguy101's topic in The Stadium Wall
I am calling the Saints this week and seeing where they are on Olave. I'd be more than happy to offer a 2nd and 3rd for Olave and a 5th to have him in a Buffalo by the 15th and in a Bills uniform for the game on the 26th. -
It wasnt just the cornerbacks. The Patriots chip blocked our defensive ends all game and dared us to get the pass rush from the middle of the defense. Maye made one off schedule throw after another because we couldnt get to him with the pass rush.
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People throw this "scheme guys open" saying around like its not the NFL. Coordinators arent scheming guys open into 25 yards of free space. The defenders are too smart and too fast. Your scheme may get a few yards of separation, but it takes both a good release and speed to beat man coverage even if you can get the scheme to work. Its not just scheme or players, it takes both at a high level of football.
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I do see some progression in Keon's game. Despite the fumble yesterday his hands do seem to be better compared to last year. That said, I still think he is an underwhelming option at #1 or #2 in an NFL offense. He still lacks concentration at times, still doesnt appear to have mastered an NFL route tree, and leaves a lot to be desired getting off press man. The Bills didnt have the luxury of taking a project at WR that high in the draft.
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I think you play Shaq the rest of the season, resign him to a 1 year deal next year and draft high at that position as well. We have to be done with Milano and WIlliams should be relegated to special teams.
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I am not advocating to start him right off of IR. My point is to work him in so he can get the needed reps to not be a bust. Sitting on the bench when healthy isnt going to make him better either.
