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Now that the season is over, I wanted to reflect on some things that I think flew under the radar both positive and negative. I'm curious everyone's thoughts. I'll start with a few: 1.) I can't say for certain if it's our analytics/ sports science department but our injury report this year (aside from the current Hughes news) was absolutely incredible. I think it was week 15 and we didn't have a single person on our injury report. The health of this team this year was amazing and I think it gave us a leg up. It seems as though since McDermott has been here, this has been common place. I think it's time we start giving kudos to him for being somewhat advanced in this category. I'm unsure how this has flown under national radar. 2.) It seemed as though we thought our depth has gotten better but it's definitely still a weak point of this team in several spots. Our depth at LB, WR, DE, RB, and TE is pretty shallow. We have decent depth at CB/S (I think Marlowe actually played well and Kurt Coleman is fine), OL, and DT. This is something that will get better as our younger guys develop but it seems as though we need depth horribly at DE and LB. There are a few more I have on my mind but I wanted to see where the board may take this.

I just don't see that happening. McDermott probably sees him as his Luke from Carolina. I'm not sure how his skills would translate to being an OLB but I don't think we'll ever know. At worst, I think we see them moving him around a lot next year with the absence of lorax.

I'd be surprised if he's there, he's just a special talent, IMO. I think as the draft process moves along, he's going to sky rocket. That being said.... I don't think we can miss in round 1 or 2 this year. With the talent pool that is there and how seemingly well Beane has drafted(obviously Cody Ford's jury is still out but he progress nonetheless), i'm super excited for this draft. I think this draft/ off-season will set us up for the next 3-4 years if we hit. Our core would be incredibly young, athletic, and cheap.

He may go in round 2. Not where we pick in round 2. You're right, actually a LOT of the NFL's good receivers today were round 2. Sterling Shep, DK, Godwin, AJ Brown, Tyreek Hill, Deebo Samuel, Michael Thomas, Devante Adams, etc etc etc

Good thing it was a sunday night game.

I'm not sure if this was said, I didn't have time to read all responses. Jefferson will NOT be there at where we pick in round 2...... as the process moves along, I could absolutely see him being our first round pick.

Never said anything about him for a 7th. I just don't want him at his age, salary, and type of injury history. It's pretty bold to suggest win a SB with him in charge. He doesn't make Siran Neal / Milano make that sack, he doesn't make poyer not get carried 10 yards into the endzone, he doesn't make our coach not play prevent on 3rd and 18, and he doesn't make our offense score more than 20 points.

But why give up assets to get a 30 year old player with a 10 mill cap hit? I mean, if this year is any indication, he's definitely on the downside of his career now.

Gotcha, gotcha. I was trying to follow it but didn't really make sense to me at first. Now it does. I got you, my guy.

I guess I'm asking if you're saying McD overdrafts DE's or if you're asking if he should. I'm not sure there is evidence to suggest he's ever over drafted a DE.

Is this also a guess as to who gets cut? Cam and Carr are not FA's.

He over drafts DEs? Didnt we only draft Johnson in the 6th round? What other DE has he drafted? But why give up assets to get a 30 year old player with a 10 mill cap hit? I mean, if this year is any indication, he's definitely on the downside of his career now.

He's not a free agent until 2022, didn't have a great year, will be 30, has had concussions, etc... pass.

Exactly! I would love for him to have added 10-15 lbs between his IR year and this offseason!

Right.. I'm going to be interested to see what kind of weight, size, etc Joseph put on in his rehab and his first NFL off-season. It would be AWESOME if he can fill right in. I think this was more in coverage ( I could be wrong ) If they can teach him downhill reads and angles, scraping, etc... his athleticism is awesome and he could be a huge asset ( I hope )

Can Judon drop into coverage? I always viewed him more of a pass rusher. I think is Vosean can play in coverage, he'd be that jack of all trades. His tape at Florida is pretty awesome. I just don't know if they view him as MLB depth or have a greater plan.

In this defense, McDermott/Frazier used Lorenzo is a lot of different packages. 1st and 2nd down when on the field he played a pretty standard 4-3 LB. Where it gets interesting is on third down, he played the 3 tech (standing up) and would rush off the edge. He's 6'1 245ish so he is a pretty big body. I think his athleticism is ~ avg for an NFL LB. Do they (or you) think that Vosean Joseph is this guy? He is 6'1 230 or so (now has had a full year to train so may be more now), hes super athletic, and has awesome instincts but i'm unfamiliar with his coverage ability. I hate that we couldn't really see him play this year. In an ideal world, he is the guy. An LB corp with Edmunds, Milano, and Joseph would be an insanely athletic and fast group. What do you think they do to replace him and/or what you like them to do to replace him?

I think people expect the world of Josh Allen and fail to realize, Josh is who he is as a football player. Josh has absolutely STUD moments and can carry a team on his back. He makes throws that maybe 2 other QB's can make (see the throw to Devin Singletary against Hou). He is an ultra competitor that can win the NFL. He is also the QB that will make bad throws and bad decisions by trying to force things/plays. I don't know that he'll ever be "polished." We have to live with that. I think Josh's good outweigh the bad. I love Josh Allen and his game. I'll live with him taking risks because I feel as though our defense will be able to keep us in many games.

Hopefully with his year off he learned in game strategy/ clock management. One of the worst I've ever seen.

He's saying that Tre didn't mention Levi at all in his interview but mentioned Kevin Johnson numerous times. I think he's saying that if Levi was going to play, he figured Tre would have mentioned his name.

No man!!! You want people that DON'T fit your system! You want to bring in the BEST 3-4 nose tackle to play in the 4-3. Stop making sense........ Please see "Cleveland Browns"

This. McDermott is this process guy and they have a plan. We haven't had a "Franchise QB" get us into the play-offs in over 20 years. We have one that did it in his 2nd year as a raw QB that was playing for a community college 4 years ago. He'll keep growing and developing and be fine.

So this is in regards to the Milano thread where you said multiple times you aren't gushing about a player so you're catching hate, etc. The problem is, you called Milano slow and said he's a system play and he only does well because of coaching. What you're failing to realize if you can criticize any player as long as you do it objectively. Saying Milano is slow is just flat out wrong. Saying he is a product of the system is sort of weird. He covers TE's 1 on 1, he plays sideline to sideline, he's asked to do a lot. You need to actually watch him play and then come back with some sort of factual premise behind your weird dislike for him.

Although this is true. IF they are looking to trade him, it is because of his massive salary which means his value will go down. A lot of teams don't want to carry that much cap on a DL and it would be a great negotiating tool for other GM's.

There is NOT a huge talent drop from Edumunds to Milano. I don't know if you don't watch Milano play, however, when he missed the Miami game, we struggled mightily. I know our coaching is good but Milano is a very good player. I'm not asking to gush over every player. You're picking one of our rocks and saying he's slow, etc etc. I don't care how good coaching is, the player still has to PLAY. McDermott does not play 1 on 1 coverage on TE's.