Stank_Nasty

twisting my words again. I didnt say the stats said Allen was a better qb overall. I said the stats show that it can be argued Allen was better THIS year. And thats not an unreasonable take. One could argue Allen was a better qb than Mahomes this last regular season. Anytime somebody brings that up, people like to try and bend that into "He's saying Allen is a better qb". Thats the issue here. I know, for me personally, thats not what i'm saying. ... and thanks for the apology. Is it too much to ask for them to be even in their analysis? If you cant see the double standard between the qb's after they both played similar games over the last 2 weeks then you are just tossing your blinders up.

Thats why they literally say in the article its the "way too early" power rankings.... its just content to pass time. no harm in it.

Nah. You didnt call me a homer. You one upped it and call me a liar.... which i never was BTW. And i think you're speaking about people in general here. But i can only say for myself(AGAIN), that i dont think Allen is quite as good as Mahomes yet. But i also think the gap is small and i would argue that Allen had a better regular season than Mahomes.... The problem is the minute somebody has the audacity to say that, and actually quote hard stats that support an argument, "Chiefs Kingdom" and all their cronies flat out lose their minds like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

agreed. Allen was dealing with that pass rush and the fact that the refs tucked their flags deep into their pockets as our wr's got man handled.

right. i understand all of this and i totally acknowledge mahomes has proven so much more..... but its STILL ridiculous. a lot of these people are former players and executives or just people that have covered the game for years. they get paid to do it. its sucks that its so predictable and we cant expect better. "poor patty mahomes did all he could. cant blame him for trying to make something happen. he was all they had.... you say josh allen dealt with the same thing 2 weeks ago? oh, he is who we thought he was. told ya so." i saw bart scott(i know he's a meathead) after the Chiefs game talking about how Allen was never more than a 2nd tier qb and that game proved it. I'd wager his tune is a little different this week regarding the new golden boy

This morning on NFL radio i finally, FINALLY, heard somebody going in on Mahomes for doing this. Solomon Wilcotts was on his morning show saying you just cannot keep running around and going backwards like that. That it just sets you up for failure most of the time. .... meanwhile our guy has just one or 2 plays in a game that look similar and the freaking mob comes out to get him.

Personally I just wanted the bills and the league see Mahomes down on the canvas. See him bleed.... just a psyche thing.... yes i'm probably over thinking it.

You're 100% correct. its been nothing but a pity party for Mahomes today and how he dealt with so much pressure..... We didnt see anything of the sort for Allen 2 weeks ago.

bro. chill.... i had saw a graphic back in december highlighting both qb's last 3 or 4 games and it had mahomes rating at 89 over that span. it was correct and so was i. there was one very poor game that pulled it down and the others hovered right at 90. he didnt play real good to end the season. The point is there was a dip in play from his usual and it was fairly large. if we point out where allen dipped and other qb's played well we can point out when another qb dipped and others outplayed him. Right?????... so no, i didnt lie. i'm quoting exactly what i saw. a dip in play where his cumulative rating was just below 90 in his last 4 games. please dont accuse me again. I already said i think mahomes is the better qb as of now. and now i see why another called you sensitive. geez man.

And if we're gonna do this for Allen can we please do this for the last 3 or 4 games of mahomes regular season when he posted a sub 90 rating? People having pounded the table about Allens mid-season regression but the same ones have no issues glossing over mahomes late season slump. A slump is a slump, no matter when it happens. I think Mahomes is the better qb, but Allens regular season was every bit on par with Mahomes.... if not just outright better.

it was actually matakevich and jones... neither is going anywhere.

100% agree. Brady is already the GOAT. Another title is a small price to pay to see those punk fans get cooled off and for the league to see mahomes bleed a bit. Last night was my preferred outcome.

I have no prayers for him. He’s gotten to watch his team in a super bowl and play in another. He’s also been on here for over 2 years making straight up bad/trollish predictions for the bills before both their good playoff seasons. This is some good medicine for him. ... he’ll be just fine. 100%. They needed this BAD. as the great Jack Lambert line goes on NFL films.... “That’ll cool your a** off”

This dude is just freaking awesome. this is stuff is pure gold.

There’s the guy we all remember. ..... They better hope Watson can help their defense because Allen made them look pop Warner twice last year.

Getting absolutely boat raced in a must win game vs a bills team sitting a handful key defenders from the start and all the starters by the half, immediately disqualified him IMO. at that point how can you even consider him amongst the top guys shown during the show.

Only 90 minutes south in NW PA and i can assure you ranch is 100x more a "thing" than blue cheese..... Decisions amongst groups on where to eat around here sometimes revolve around the bar ranch recipe of certain establishments. ..... if i cant have ranch with with my pizza or wings i'd rather just go hungry.... and blue cheese is even worse than having nothing at all IMO🤪

Hawaiian pizza is freaking awesome. And get this......... I DIP MINE IN RANCH!!!!!!! SUCK ON THAT ONE!

he turned around every franchise he ever worked with. So ya, i woulda been down for some "Marty Ball". People will reference his one year stint in Washington as a stain. But that team started 0-5 and then finished 8-3 down the stretch. They decided to go with spurrier then next year. Obviously a big mistake. Very sad to see Martys decline.

It looks like he's trying to throw a refrigerator anytime he attempts something over 10 yards. Painful to watch.

I remember that bet and also remember wondering how somebody could have seen his improvements and bet against him getting to 60%. That was easy money for you. there was also a member up at the top of this page that was so obsessed with Allen’s pedestrian production in mountain west that it blinded him to the obvious improvements we were seeing right in front of us as a pro in his first 2 seasons. I amount of people that couldn’t recognize the growth and flashes of brilliance, is mind boggling to me.

right off the top of my head without looking(which i wont do because i dont feel like it due to the fact that its obvious that its happened numerous times), i remember the cowboys drafting frederick at the end of the 1st. They wanted him, they went and got him and caught some flack. some thought it was a round too early and he ended up being an all pro and an anchor on the best line in football for a time. literally nobody was 2nd guessing that pick by the end of his rookie year.... its not hard to pick them out... acting like the draft is purely for value and nothing else is good way to lose out on some serious pieces to puzzle. thankfully i'm confident our front office knows that. this is absolutely ridiculous. if there is a guy there they want and are certain he will help them raise their level immediately you take them. PERIOD. you dont just pass because he's projected 10 or 15 slots lower. good lord. To be clear i'm not saying harris is that guy. i'm speaking in general terms.

BS. Maybe for you it is but plenty of good teams will see a guy they know will help them immediately and take him. Regardless of if they reached 10 spots to do so. ESPECIALLY in the end of the first. Don’t talk like value is an absolute. It’s not. and shouldn’t be.... should it be factored in though? Sure.