Stank_Nasty

True.... until the defense carried them through the divisional..... Also i disagree with disregarding the massive statistical turnaround on defense from week 6 all the way into the playoffs.

The Bills have a top ten LT, arguably a top 5 safety duo, Hughes is anything but a JAG. The dude has 6 sacks in 5 career playoff games. why do you say the things you say?

Not quite on the Jeremy Maclin level though...

It was dumb before the season started and its even more dumb now. Anyone with eyes could see the steady improvement. They could see the intangibles. They could see 29 total td and only 13 to's in year 2 while heading to the playoffs. If anyone couldnt see a good season coming then thats on them and what they apparently have trouble deciphering.... Saying the Bills qb needed to continue to improve and build on a solid year 2 would be one thing. Saying there was an obvious hole at QB was dumb. I get that you probably disagree, as you were one of the guys around here that couldnt seem to see the obvious signs and just kept hammering on an easy 2019 schedule and mountain west statistics from 2017 even though Josh had already put that stuff to bed. .... all of this is not to say i expected his season to be quite as good as it was. i didnt..... but i thought he could creep into the top 10 discussion by the end of 2020 with continued progression and the addition of diggs.

Stiff arm on jags D-lineman rookie year on his way to the EZ. First guy up in the segment.

Monson actually came around much sooner and has been razzing the other guy pretty dang hard since about mid season. Their dialogue about it was actually sort of entertaining each week on their show..... which is why I think he held out for so long.

Ariel has been hilarious as the celebrity bills fan on the Pat macafee show over the last couple of months. Just some great stuff.

Huh. I coulda swore I saw a year end SOS ranking that had us in the top ten still. I very well could be mistaken though.

Last year we had the 5th hardest schedule coming into the season based on those metrics and we finished with the 5th hardest schedule after the regular season. There’s relevance for sure. I’ll admit it’s not always nearly that accurate but it can paint a solid picture of what’s to come. EDIT: I coulda swore I saw a year end ranking that had us still in the top 5-10 in SOS but now I can’t seem to find anything on it. My bad... I have, however, still found various ranking systems from sites that have us concluding the season in their top ten SOS standings but it’s not just based on opponent win%

A bad game is a bad game. i love how you can somehow judge me on my even keeled take on the desire that qb's be called out for bad or good play regardless on their past. i'm being so unreasonable right??? ......bro you need to drop the judgy know it all act. its just not very becoming.... good talk. have a nice day.... good call on not giving opinions on one another.

Its definitely where we differ. How in gods name does anything that happened in the past make you analyze how they played a bad game any different thats ABSURD... neither deserve the coddling and neither deserve to thrown under the bus. Both had a bad game. Both should be analyzed as such. Sort of like if anyone dare mention that Allen MIGHT have had a better statistical season than Mahomes... Chiefs fans and basically everyone else on the planet have some sort of nuclear meltdown that anyone have the audacity to even hint that there was another qb even close to his level during the regular season. .... its funny because we bills fans, as a whole, have always been accused of being overly sensitive(and we deserve it), but i dont think i've seen a more triggered/sensitive group of people than Mahomes fans if you mention anybody even came close to his level of play. Straight up toddler temper tantrums over it.

Never said that. I saw somebody saying it but it wasnt me.... Neither was good. One is getting coddled over it in main stream while the other isnt. Thats my issue. Its not some earth shattering thing. But i just think people that get paid to talk about the sport should be consistent. and as for you "one year doesnt mean anything" statement. I would hope thats not the case. good lord. This year said a whoolllleeee lot about the qb we have and what we have to look forward to. He very firmly elevated himself with this one single year... We need to see it more than just this season, but this season spoke volumes IMO.

twisting my words again. I didnt say the stats said Allen was a better qb overall. I said the stats show that it can be argued Allen was better THIS year. And thats not an unreasonable take. One could argue Allen was a better qb than Mahomes this last regular season. Anytime somebody brings that up, people like to try and bend that into "He's saying Allen is a better qb". Thats the issue here. I know, for me personally, thats not what i'm saying. ... and thanks for the apology. Is it too much to ask for them to be even in their analysis? If you cant see the double standard between the qb's after they both played similar games over the last 2 weeks then you are just tossing your blinders up.

Thats why they literally say in the article its the "way too early" power rankings.... its just content to pass time. no harm in it.

Nah. You didnt call me a homer. You one upped it and call me a liar.... which i never was BTW. And i think you're speaking about people in general here. But i can only say for myself(AGAIN), that i dont think Allen is quite as good as Mahomes yet. But i also think the gap is small and i would argue that Allen had a better regular season than Mahomes.... The problem is the minute somebody has the audacity to say that, and actually quote hard stats that support an argument, "Chiefs Kingdom" and all their cronies flat out lose their minds like a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

agreed. Allen was dealing with that pass rush and the fact that the refs tucked their flags deep into their pockets as our wr's got man handled.

right. i understand all of this and i totally acknowledge mahomes has proven so much more..... but its STILL ridiculous. a lot of these people are former players and executives or just people that have covered the game for years. they get paid to do it. its sucks that its so predictable and we cant expect better. "poor patty mahomes did all he could. cant blame him for trying to make something happen. he was all they had.... you say josh allen dealt with the same thing 2 weeks ago? oh, he is who we thought he was. told ya so." i saw bart scott(i know he's a meathead) after the Chiefs game talking about how Allen was never more than a 2nd tier qb and that game proved it. I'd wager his tune is a little different this week regarding the new golden boy

This morning on NFL radio i finally, FINALLY, heard somebody going in on Mahomes for doing this. Solomon Wilcotts was on his morning show saying you just cannot keep running around and going backwards like that. That it just sets you up for failure most of the time. .... meanwhile our guy has just one or 2 plays in a game that look similar and the freaking mob comes out to get him.

Personally I just wanted the bills and the league see Mahomes down on the canvas. See him bleed.... just a psyche thing.... yes i'm probably over thinking it.

You're 100% correct. its been nothing but a pity party for Mahomes today and how he dealt with so much pressure..... We didnt see anything of the sort for Allen 2 weeks ago.

bro. chill.... i had saw a graphic back in december highlighting both qb's last 3 or 4 games and it had mahomes rating at 89 over that span. it was correct and so was i. there was one very poor game that pulled it down and the others hovered right at 90. he didnt play real good to end the season. The point is there was a dip in play from his usual and it was fairly large. if we point out where allen dipped and other qb's played well we can point out when another qb dipped and others outplayed him. Right?????... so no, i didnt lie. i'm quoting exactly what i saw. a dip in play where his cumulative rating was just below 90 in his last 4 games. please dont accuse me again. I already said i think mahomes is the better qb as of now. and now i see why another called you sensitive. geez man.

And if we're gonna do this for Allen can we please do this for the last 3 or 4 games of mahomes regular season when he posted a sub 90 rating? People having pounded the table about Allens mid-season regression but the same ones have no issues glossing over mahomes late season slump. A slump is a slump, no matter when it happens. I think Mahomes is the better qb, but Allens regular season was every bit on par with Mahomes.... if not just outright better.

it was actually matakevich and jones... neither is going anywhere.

100% agree. Brady is already the GOAT. Another title is a small price to pay to see those punk fans get cooled off and for the league to see mahomes bleed a bit. Last night was my preferred outcome.