SoCal Deek

So for ‘ just’ $30,000 more you get free food and drinks? No thanks. I’ll pack a lunch from home. 😂

Mark this day…..Let the wind confusion begin!

But did any of his teammates go to his birthday party? Hmmmm?

These multifaceted discussions are challenging in a chat room format. I’ve never said this is good or bad for the ‘billionaire’ and I’m definitely not anti-billionaire. My point has always been that is a terribly deceptive form of sales. There are lots of ways to sell products and services. This particular one is famous for being less than open about the true costs. I’m not a big fan of the tactic….and I don’t think it’s necessary to sell tickets for a historically beloved football team to a historically loyal fan base.

Thanks but my analogy or perception had nothing to do with my architectural background. It came from sitting through more than a few timeshare presentations. This is a distinct style of marketing and generally not a well appreciated one. It’s known for deceptive pricing, long term commitments, high pressure appointment style meetings, and hidden additional fees. I have no idea why the Bills adopted this style. It’s not as if your typical Buffalonian is visiting Orchard Park on vacation.

Yep, they are kind of stuck. All of the examples that I listed above have painted them into a bit of a corner. It'll surely be interesting to see what McBeane decide to do about it later this month. They could either swing for the fences or rely on a bunch of singles to push runs across. I'm guessing there'll be little doubt after the Draft.

The time-share analogy has been my premise from the time these 'appointments' were first announced. At that time people had no idea what the pricing would look like. Now that some of that pricing has been revealed I'm reading conflicting opinions on here as to whether it's the price or the style of presentation that is so off-putting.

My point is that it’s not for a lack of trying. They signed Von Miller and he got hurt. They re-signed Knox and he disappeared. They drafted an athletic freak at MLB and his performance was perpetually suspect. They waited for their #2 WR to live up to his ‘big game’ moniker and yet…he clearly never did.

Thanks for sharing the information. I am obviously not an expert on the stadium’s ticket pricing history. If what you’re saying is true then the team should have no problem filling the seats or getting their allotment of repeat season ticket holders. Of course if that’s true then there’s no need for this thread to be up to 40 plus pages. 😉

Can you imagine what would’ve happened if the maintenance had occurred within an hour of the Diggs trade? Bad things Man!

The marketing mistake the Bills made was linking the new prices to the new stadium. They should’ve been raising prices throughout the years so the sticker shock wouldn’t have been so immediate. I’m was on the Board of an HOA a few years back and I would regularly advocate for raising the monthly dues to keep up with inflation. The majority of the Board wanted to delay things so they’d let the deficit pile up and hit all the residents with a significant increase every three or four years. That increase was predictably followed by a lot of teeth gnashing and ire cast at the Board for mismanagement.

Bass has what should be a very fixable problem. It’s not inconsistency or lack of power. He has developed a very predictable SLICE in his kicks. I cannot imagine that the kicking coach can’t fix that. If he can’t, they need a new coach AND a new kicker.

I realize that it’s basketball season but…..This is not the NBA. Football is far less about impact players and far more about strategy. (We could go on for hours, but the Bills didn’t lose to KC a few months ago because of a lack of impact players.)

I’m sure virtually all of you have wanted to change jobs now and then; for all sorts of reasons. I’m likewise sure virtually none of you have anything more than a one year contract with your employer.

For whatever reason I’ve always seen him to be similar to Andre Reed. He has that same over the middle YAC thing going for him.

Just a few weeks ago the general consensus was that the Bills needed to use their picks to get younger and cheaper. I see nothing having changed. The draft is a total crap shoot. Stay where you are and the take the player you like best when you’re number comes up.

Once you live outside of WNY you realize just how small the Buffalo area really is. Be glad you have two major sports franchises. Theres no way it could support a Major League Baseball team. No way.

I wouldn’t say that it hurt but I remember thinking when Gilmore and Darby left in close succession, “what are we a farm team now?”

Did your friend get to see any renderings? 😂

Hey! Back in the 70s we used to park in the mud lot. Who knew? Go figure?

Because YOU say so? Having been in his exact same position at one time in my career I can tell you that’s it’s really hard to assume that role if many of your teammates keep looking over to the other guy for even subtle signs of agreement. But…I think we both can agree that there’s no doubt left now.

You might think so but as most attest it’s very hard for the new leader to truly take charge when the old leader (or co-leader) keeps hanging around stealing the oxygen from the building. That is now officially over.

What’s missing in so many of these posts is the REAL message this is sending to the locker room and front office is that is that this is now Josh Allen’s team to win or lose. No more second fiddle or even Batman and Robin thing. It’s time for Josh to assume the full leadership role. (It happens in all organizations at some time.)

All kidding aside, once a team has their franchise QB, they need to spend money on an offensive line to protect him, and let everyone else be younger and cheaper. The mistake the Bills made was going ‘all in’ after 13 seconds thinking they were right there, and maybe they were, but it didn’t work out. So guys like Von, Diggs and Knox have to go, and probably should never been signed or extended in the first place. Starting today, this is NOW Josh Allen’s team. Period!

I’m guessing this means PSL sales aren’t going as planned.