Rochesterfan

It is a formula - you can go ahead and look to see exactly which teams we play home and away for the next decade (assuming nothing gets shifted or a new division is created). You don’t know exactly which team is always on tap because that is based on exactly where you finish the previous year, but it will list Away AFC West and Home AFC South for example. The teams then get filled in. They have it nicely laid out if you just look for it (already posted in this thread. The NFL does rotate home and away when you play the entire division, but since you have no idea ahead of time who will finish where - it makes no sense to try and build Home/Away for that - you just set it up on a rotating basis - which is exactly what they have done.

OK - so Devin Singletary over 50 games - 4.7 YPC CMC over 63 games - 4.6 YPC It is not just over a small sample size the comparison holds for well over 4 years. Explosion - I get it, but Devin has had the longer run in 2 out of his 4 years and the same with receiving 2 out of his 4 years - Singletary has the longer reception for the year. CMC does have a 1.2 yard per reception advantage for his career over 8 to nearly 7 for Devin. Devin has also been significantly healthier and costs significantly less long term - although there may be savings for the rest of this year. My overall point is just that whether a trade happens or not - the RB in a Buffalo offense makes very little difference. They get very limited touches running the ball and limited passes to catch - Make the change, but expect little real overall impact. Maybe CMC could change that but he also has a history of injury that would suggest you get less than 1/2 a season before he can no longer perform to that level.

So are our RBs good or bad? Singletary over 4YPC this year and career over 4.7 YPC Moss - 5.3 YPC for the season Cook - 5.2 YPC for the season. They have better YPC than Pierce and are right in line with Hall and better than Jacobs career - although with the #1 run blocking line he is having a better year and all of that has gotten LV 1 win. Give me the better QB.

My take is they are hearing the same rumors from over the summer and giving them new fire with the coach leaving.

So Breece Hall had 18 for 97 - pretty much exactly what Moss and Cook have done- both are at 5.3 YPC. So what exactly is your point. The difference is Hall, Pierce, Jacobs all get significantly more carries per game. I can imagine any of them on the Bills, but can you picture Jacobs or Hall after getting 10 carries a game. I do not want to take the ball out of Josh’s hand for 20+ runs a game - Josh averages passing is double what Jacobs averages on the ground and his great running has made his team an incredible 1-4. They would not get the volume here to make a difference to the offense. They make a difference in an offense that has a mediocre QB and you are covering for him.

Nope it seems total stupid as none of them have really said anything. The Bills would be stupid to include Singletary or Cook. Can you imagine how this board would implode when CMC has his typical injury and we traded Singletary and are forced to us Moss as the RB for a majority of a game. CMC with his injury history- the Bills better have insurance in place as a back up RB to handle the 4-6 games or more he tends to miss. I would be fine with a trade, but we need something else back to protect ourselves.

or 1 guy said something and everyone else is just copying it. there was 1 tweet and then a bit later 2 more tweets that were nearly identical- even mentioning the same teams in the same order went out. Then some real insiders came out and said no one has talked at this time. So are teams lying or did someone make some crap up based upon reading tea leafs and several others jump on the band wagon - that is where I am leaning - there is a lot of self created smoke at this point. Little actual meat to eat.

Nope - it is based upon a set rotation based upon your division. When you face an entire division - the home and away rotates, but because of when you play a division where you are matching up with like teams (winners or how they place) that rotates on a different schedule because you may or may not play the same team. It just so happens KC and Buffalo both keep winning and the portion of the rotation has the AFC East and AFC West winners playing at AFC West as part of the off cycle rotation. You can see the rotation for years out if you want - it is set to make it easier on the schedule - the teams just slot in later.

If that is the case - does that mean Singletary, Moss, and Cook are that much better than the guys you are mentioning? Singletary - 4.3 YPC Moss - 5.4 YPC Cook - 5.2 YPC The team average is 5.1 YPC. Are you saying that McCaffrey, Barkley, or Henry would be so bad that they could not match a guy like Singletary behind this line because that makes no sense. All 3 are better players - so I would think that they could at least hit the same holes the other 3 hit and make similar yards per carry. I would also hope that a run like Moss had against Pittsburgh - maybe those 3 turn that from a 6 yard run off the goal line into a 30 or 40 yard run with some vision and balance.

I agree and I would add that: #3 - the hit was no where near the head or in a spearing motion - allowing the Refs some Leeway. The only thing I was not sure I agreed with - was how the penalty was enforced. The Refs called it unsportsmanlike conduct as part of the action - therefore moving it back 15 yards and not giving the Steelers the first down. Which worked out for Buffalo. I think the correct call as Hamlin hit Pickett as he slide and was down and then after the play was over the unsportsmanlike conduct occurred - it should have been a dead ball foul with Pittsburgh awarded the first down and then the 15 yard penalty making it 1st and 10 from the 29 rather than 3rd and 15 from the 29. The outcome was better for Buffalo - just think based upon the play - the Refs did a poor job calling the foul on Pittsburgh.

The problem is the Ref did not take control - just like last week in their game. This crew allowed both games to get out of hand and then this particular Ref gets involved in the action. The players have a level of responsibility, but the Refs are supposed to be above that and in this case the Ref put his hands on a player and then was angry when said player retaliated. Then the Ref lost his cool and got in the face of the player. This Ref was the cause of the issue and really should face disciplinary action, but he won’t.

Agreed - the entire over-reaction was Hussey’s fault. AJ had both arms around Shaq and was moving him away from the pile when Hussey comes up behind and shoves AJ away. When he continued - AJ swung his Elbow and said something, but at that point he didn’t know it was a Ref and the Refs should not be pushing players - especially when they are helping to control a situation that the Refs failed to Control themselves. Then to make it worse - Hussey goes after him and another official has to step in the way. Bad look by the Zebra’s.

Nope because then on a run or catch - if the hand goes down - you would need to call the runner down by contact. They are very specific about the hands not counting to keep it consistent for balance checks on other plays where the hands hit the ground.

The poster is a moron that made the thread just to get a rise. He is a terrible poster and actually people are being kind as this barely makes his top 10 dumbest posts/threads list, but thanks for playing.

Yep - Romo was running a pretty dumb narrative until somebody got in his ear to tell him it was incomplete. Just absolutely butchered the call - at one point saying he got both feet down. The Bills stadium is also one of the better to see both live and on the booths - just a really bad day by Romo.

Well our resident Einstein is all over that with us needing a new Back-up. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Ahh - look who had a thought - must be time for a thread. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Agreed, but that is not on the UNC - that is on the team doctor. We also do not know what was said. Did he say like a stinger that it flared and stopped or was that a Dolphins code for getting out of concussion protocol. I think you can easily lay blame at the team doctor, but I do not think they can lay blame at the one person the NFLPA could blame - the UNC. The biggest piece though is if the player stated he had any symptoms, headache, light sensitivity, woozy feeling, etc. The UNC holds him out. If the player is hell bent on getting back in and lies about all of that and gamed the baseline testing and many former players have stated they do - for the express reason of getting out of protocol and getting back - isn’t that the primary issue the NFLPA should be addressing. Players - including Tretter could be part of the solution to the issue rather than being a part of the problem and then blaming others for the problem.

Just in general. Several former players have talked for years about how the majority of players all “game the system”. It is well known amongst the players and the NFLPA - so if the NFLPA truly cared - that would be the first place to fix the system. They even point to rookies and younger players that did not know failing concussion protocols because of it. It is not victim blaming - the player is the most important piece of the equation and they have to be honest for the protocol to work and if they lie about symptoms and purposely game the baseline testing then they made everyone else’s job nearly impossible. I do not know if Tua “gamed” the system, but if he didn’t and he did not have any concussion symptoms and he passed the mental testing repeatedly - then we are all speculating on a concussion based solely on the GMI. Do I think he had a concussion and should have been held out - yep, but I also understand based upon the previous protocol- if everything checked out - why you allow him back in. He passed the testing he needed to, gave a ready made excuse, and cleared through.

Everyone here is overlooking one major thing. There is one person to blame for this issue and one person only - Tua - the player. Look the NFL and NFLPA agree the protocol was followed - then the idiot Tretter - who “SUCKS” as a leader comes out with his weak response that the NFL and the UNC are at fault, but they can not tell you anything they did wrong other than the team doctor did not examine his back - Bullcrap. The 1st issue here is a player (and it has been stated many times by other players) had a baseline testing that he did poorly enough on that he could pass it in game even with a head injury. Therefore the UNC in doing his work is already at a disadvantage because he has a baseline that is false. The 2nd issue is if the player lies about the injury or any symptoms- so in this case as they are asking about the injury while watching the film and Tua states that Nope - it was not my head it was my lower back - the players know the loop hole and he passed the mental part because his baseline was low - then the 2 best ways to diagnose a concussion on site and quickly have been gamed by the player and it is not the first time it has happened. The UNC and team doctor have a responsibility to protect the player, but the player has a direct responsibility to themselves to be honest and helpful in an exam and the doctors can only do so much. If “Tretter” and the NFLPA really and truly want to fix the concussion issue they can, but it requires the Players to be honest and do he baseline and in game testing honestly. Idiots like Tretter are looking for blame and they found their scapegoat in the UNC they fired for no cause. If the NFLPA truly “found” something done wrong and outside of protocol - they would be shouting it from the rooftops - instead they fired the man because he was belligerent to them during the interview process. There was a loophole and now that loophole will be closed and players will begin looking for the next way around the loophole. As has been stated - staying down longer to prevent GMI issues - limping or adding some other action if they think they are a bit wobbly to make it appear to be something else. The only facts we have are Tua got knocked on his Butt and smacked his head - he told the team and the UNC he had no symptoms and he could pass the mental testing at the facility. He got through the rest of the game and then the weekly practice with according to Tua - no signs or symptoms and passes any additional testing that was part of the NFL follow in case of delayed symptoms. Therefore he was cleared for Thursday Night. The person at fault and the person to blame - Tua - he could have stopped it at any point by being honest.

The difficulty is people automatically blame coaching. In the Miami game - coaching was blamed for time running out, but McK said he was told either get down or they had to get OOB. He knew that, but in the heat of the moment - he thought he could get OOB when he couldn’t and ended up in no man’s land that is on the player. The end of the first half was also set up beautifully by the coaches and a bad snap/bobble caused the issue. Even the 13 seconds against KC - Poyer and Hyde said they made an adjustment and Levi admitted he was not in the correct spot for the adjustment. There are always more the coaching could do, but the Bills seem to be one of the best prepared, best coached and most notably one of the best teams at in game adjustments in the league.

Because it most likely is not costing 6.6 million. If as has been stated - OBJ will be signing in Mid-December - you are looking at having to pay him for 4 games coming off injury. They may split a signing bonus between this year and next and give him a bit over minimum per game - keeping him closer to the 1.7 we have left. Then he can chase a ring again and be free for next year to pursue another hefty contract.

Nope - on IR and not ready yet according to I believe it was Sal that said that.

I think the others nailed it and it is very common now. Almost every team uses the RG in that way. He taps, waves a hand, does other motion and the center knows Josh is ready.

At least be a man about it and do it after the first quarter of the next game. Give Brady and the Bucs a Vontae Davis action. Or He could strip down and leave like AB, but don’t actually announce it. Come On Man!