Rochesterfan

I have not gone through the All-22, but after just watching highlights and listening to a few trusted people - I am going to strongly disagree with your first line and I will wait until the player stats all come out, but I think at halftime the Bills made some major adjustments that kept Mahomes off his game. First off the Bills played a variety of coverages including more Man, some zone, and some Man Zone combo coverages going side versus side. They also came up with what I will call a BIG DIME - where they switched up and had only 3 DL in the game rushing and used Milano as a 4th DL and a spy. They then dropped 7 into coverage with Edmunds as the sole LB and used Neal and Taron as thumpers to help with coverage, but not lose the ability to tackle. It worked for the most part although Neal got burned and missed JuJu on the long TD. On the Int - the Bills used combo coverage and Mahomes tendencies against the Chiefs to win the game. The Bills played Man on the Defenses right side and a Robber Zone on the left. They know that Mahomes likes to escape to his right (D’s Left) so they set up a Pass Rush from Von to specifically move Mahomes and allow him to move right and then attack with Milano - similar to how Belichek attacked Josh last year. Give him what he wants, but attack him so he can’t get comfortable. Milano flashed causing Mahomes to hold the ball and then Taron playing Robber attacked the spot for the pick. It was a defense I believe specifically created for later in the game to attack the Chiefs by showing them what they wanted and preying on those tendencies. The Bills played multiple different defenses throughout the game making Mahomes adjust and by trying to keep things in front - they forced them to have to figure things out continuously throughout the game leading to KC mistakes. Just because the Bills have a specific philosophy of not getting beat deep does not mean they do not flip the script on teams and show a ton of variety. The staff is very good at being variable and they pull things out against specific opponents and hide it at other times. Brilliant Job by McD and staff!!!!!

I agree, but after I saw the Morris post and the flight delay - I actually thought - I have time from Rochester to make it. This was not the game, but it is something I love about the fans - they show out and Heck we deserve this as much as anyone.

The Players seem to love it - with guys like Quentin Morris calling for it. I think it means a lot to these guys after a big win.

Except - I think they did play different - especially in the second half. They are still going to play off and try to keep things in front, but the switched it up using Milano as a spy/attacker and created frustration in Mahomes - who took a couple of hits from Milano leading to the pick. I just don’t think they care if Kelce gets 1 catch or 10 catches - they just want to tackle him immediately after the catch and they did that. The important piece was stopping the run and getting pressure and they did both. Then using Milano so that when Mahomes did slip through a crack - he was under attack created a new twist.

Yeah he has looked good for almost 5 games - we will see if it lasts.

Totally agree - AT HIS PEAK - McCaffrey is a game changer, but when was his peak? 3 years ago - 2019 maybe. Right now his numbers suggest he is a middle of the road back. He definitely has some play as a receiving back, but even that is limited. For the limited touches and usage - I have no issues with a 3rd rounder or later, but as this team is not at the end or even late in their Super Bowl window - a first or second is just more than I am willing to give up. The question for me is 2 fold: 1) As he has played 3 and 7 games the last 2 years and is nicked up by 5 games this year - what are you realistically looking to give up with the knowledge that there is a good chance he is unavailable for the games you need him most for and that to nurse him to those games means giving him little play for the next 10-12 weeks to keep him fresh. 2) What is the long term plan for the position - as I stated the Bills are not the Rams and near the end of their window with an aging QB - they are still pressing near the beginning. I am not willing to Trade a potential future 4-5 year cheap starter for a 1 year rental that we then cut meaning you do not even get a potential Comp pick. If there is Compensation worked out to cheaply extend him 3 more years or we give up a 1st and got a 3rd back or additional young players with term - great, but a 2nd contract RB for a 1 year rental with this window - no thanks. If we could sign him like OBJ for no compensation- great sign me up, but to give up big draft capital for a 1 year rental at this point in the window is just a hard NO. For the right compensation and length of term - yep he could be a nice add, but I am not risking my window for an oft injured RB.

Except his average is less than Singletary and Singletary has had a longer run and a longer reception in 2 of his 4 years. How explosive is he really compared to his injury potential. I am fine with the move at the right cost. Maybe a 3rd or a 3rd and Moss. I would not give up a second or a first for CMC any longer - he just is not worth it.

It makes no sense to trade for a guy out for the season🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦

I agree totally - he would have been a PS call up when they were short, but no unless something changes in the next couple of weeks - I think he gets cut rather than the Bills using an IR call up on him. He may also be content to sit on IR just in case something happens late in the season, but with Tre coming back - Rhodes is just no longer a need at all in my opinion.

The USFL used it, but it was not better and really added nothing of benefit that I ever saw. In the end - the consensus seemed to be that the NFL was more accurate than the chip in the USFL. The complaint from the kickers should also be noted. Current NFL balls are all chipped, but have little impact because of where the chip is placed. It is used exclusively for next gen stats.

Just shocking - kick the slime ball out of the league. He is just a terrible person.

He was a 3rd round pick that is being benched. No way do I give up a 3rd or even a 4th. I doubt the Bills deal with Washington, but if they want to make amends - Gibson and 7th for Moss and a 6th. If they only want a pick - I still go no higher than a 6th. If He was staying as Washington’s starter - he might be worth a touch more, but if they consider him a back-up and he was a third rounder - he has dropped significantly in value toward the 6th/7th range. McCaffrey is worth a 3rd maybe a 2nd - Gibson no way.

You would still need 100% visibility of the ball for the system to work. If the systems can not see the ball from all angles - how can it accurately determine the position?

Really think you are missing the issue. 1st as has been stated in the other threads on this topic - you will not get the accuracy you are talking about. The chip will give you an idea, but not anything closer than the current video evidence. Even when you can see the ball - the chip just gives an area - so it would not work for LOS/TD/1st downs. 2nd - even if they begin to narrow down the accuracy - you still need to have proof of the player is he down and where exactly is he down and therefore you would need to sync to the Millisecond the tracking of the chip to the video and that is more difficult and time consuming than the current process and still doesn’t help in all scenarios. 3rd - what if the ball is not going straight ahead - the 2 ends are going across the field as the player dives. Video evidence shows the laces appearing to cross the plain, but the tracking shows it short. Now you have created a mismatch and what would happen if the ball was hidden or you can’t see down. The reality is - the technology is not advanced enough at this point to be a huge help and I doubt until they redo the fields with sensors perfectly spaced that could provide the required accuracy - this is a non functional solution looking for a question. Currently - I believe the balls already have sensors in them - so they can be used for advanced metrics like speed of throw and other AWS metrics that the league uses - it just has to get mirrored to the video to provide the data. It is rarely an issue of did it cross the plain. It is an issue of where was it when the player was down - which means not only video getting synced, but then syncing the sensors down to the millisecond as you review the film. it would still not end the debate - it might change it, but it would not end it.

Go to Ourlads and depth chart - he is listed on the injury section because he is on PS-IR and is out. The Bills should not waste an IR return on him - so my guess is when healthy - he gets cut rather than activated and he will not rejoin this team.

You mean Thad in front of a mic 🎙. - let me say 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Just Joking with you - I would love to hear from Tre’

I just honestly think the coaches are looking at this as position flexibility - all the way around. Benford has strong projections as a future safety with nice zone coverage skills, Elam is filling in nicely, White had great man and zone coverage ability, Dane has proven himself as an outside zone guy, Taron is a beast. All of them would give some different ability to mix and match or switch up with White and Elam on the outside in Man with Taron and Benford playing slot/Safety coverage on a guy like Kelce. You suddenly have the ability to put out 5 coverage guys that can all tackle and cover and take away entire parts of the field and then bring Hamlin and Poyer in for some changed up looks. I want the Bills playing with people’s minds with coverages. Who is covering who and how are we going to disguise the coverage to get some easy plays - just like we do on offense. I want to see all of these guys working together and forming a unit that can shut down teams passing and the DL stopping the run game.

The thing is that the rotation is the same - it is still doubled with just a different starting point. AFC East - H,H, division, A, A, Division - paired couplets. AFC North - H,A, Division, A, H, Division - same paired couplets- just slide 1 spot to ensure proper home and away schedules. All divisions end up with potential 3 games against a team at home or on the road versus a team depending on record and where the H/A division games fall based upon that preset rotation.

It is a formula - you can go ahead and look to see exactly which teams we play home and away for the next decade (assuming nothing gets shifted or a new division is created). You don’t know exactly which team is always on tap because that is based on exactly where you finish the previous year, but it will list Away AFC West and Home AFC South for example. The teams then get filled in. They have it nicely laid out if you just look for it (already posted in this thread. The NFL does rotate home and away when you play the entire division, but since you have no idea ahead of time who will finish where - it makes no sense to try and build Home/Away for that - you just set it up on a rotating basis - which is exactly what they have done.

OK - so Devin Singletary over 50 games - 4.7 YPC CMC over 63 games - 4.6 YPC It is not just over a small sample size the comparison holds for well over 4 years. Explosion - I get it, but Devin has had the longer run in 2 out of his 4 years and the same with receiving 2 out of his 4 years - Singletary has the longer reception for the year. CMC does have a 1.2 yard per reception advantage for his career over 8 to nearly 7 for Devin. Devin has also been significantly healthier and costs significantly less long term - although there may be savings for the rest of this year. My overall point is just that whether a trade happens or not - the RB in a Buffalo offense makes very little difference. They get very limited touches running the ball and limited passes to catch - Make the change, but expect little real overall impact. Maybe CMC could change that but he also has a history of injury that would suggest you get less than 1/2 a season before he can no longer perform to that level.

So are our RBs good or bad? Singletary over 4YPC this year and career over 4.7 YPC Moss - 5.3 YPC for the season Cook - 5.2 YPC for the season. They have better YPC than Pierce and are right in line with Hall and better than Jacobs career - although with the #1 run blocking line he is having a better year and all of that has gotten LV 1 win. Give me the better QB.

My take is they are hearing the same rumors from over the summer and giving them new fire with the coach leaving.

So Breece Hall had 18 for 97 - pretty much exactly what Moss and Cook have done- both are at 5.3 YPC. So what exactly is your point. The difference is Hall, Pierce, Jacobs all get significantly more carries per game. I can imagine any of them on the Bills, but can you picture Jacobs or Hall after getting 10 carries a game. I do not want to take the ball out of Josh’s hand for 20+ runs a game - Josh averages passing is double what Jacobs averages on the ground and his great running has made his team an incredible 1-4. They would not get the volume here to make a difference to the offense. They make a difference in an offense that has a mediocre QB and you are covering for him.

Nope it seems total stupid as none of them have really said anything. The Bills would be stupid to include Singletary or Cook. Can you imagine how this board would implode when CMC has his typical injury and we traded Singletary and are forced to us Moss as the RB for a majority of a game. CMC with his injury history- the Bills better have insurance in place as a back up RB to handle the 4-6 games or more he tends to miss. I would be fine with a trade, but we need something else back to protect ourselves.

or 1 guy said something and everyone else is just copying it. there was 1 tweet and then a bit later 2 more tweets that were nearly identical- even mentioning the same teams in the same order went out. Then some real insiders came out and said no one has talked at this time. So are teams lying or did someone make some crap up based upon reading tea leafs and several others jump on the band wagon - that is where I am leaning - there is a lot of self created smoke at this point. Little actual meat to eat.