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Camp David meeting called off at last minute. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/08/president-trump-criticized-taliban-camp-david/2255653001/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/08/trump-calls-off-secret-camp-david-meeting-with-taliban-afghan-leaders/&ved=2ahUKEwi2_JmmkbfyAhVJaM0KHSuhDK8QFnoECB8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw1E3ewrxoBmpKvHuUOFciHy It was called off after the Taliban claimed responsibility for a car bomb that killed 12 including 1 American. My point was that Trump and Pompeo legitimized these guys and undermined the now failed Afghan govt. by only inviting the Taliban, then agreeing to release 5,000 enemy soldiers in their country without even consulting them. It is outrageous and completely against the stated objective of building a govt and security force to run the country when we 've gone.

Perspective is everything when judging a wars success. If the true goal of this 20 year Afghanistan war was for the military industrial complex to steal trillions of dollars from the American people then it was a tremendous success. If the goal was to continue production of 90% of the world's opium, which the Taliban were shutting down 20 years ago (Taliban controlled areas produced close to nothing in 2001 while the rest of the country cultivated 8,000 hectares, there is now ~350,000 hectares of opium cultivation); opium production has since boomed significantly, regularly hitting all time highs over the last 20 years under US control. It has again, been a tremendous success. On the subject of the current panicked withdrawal disaster; perhaps if Pompeo and Trump had invited the Afghan government and military to take part in the 'peace' treaty they negotiated, and perhaps if they hadn't agreed to release 5,000 taliban soldiers that are now overrunning the country; this inevitable withdrawal which they negotiated and agreed to would have gone more smoothly. One of those 5000 they released is the current leader who is now the new Afghan President. Trump said the Taliban were our allies, Pompeo said they denounce Al Qaeda; neither statement was true. By meeting and signing a treaty with them, especially with no Afghan govt present, they recognized the Taliban as a legitimate political entity and essentialy sealed the country's fate. Trump even wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David without the Afghan govt on the weekend of 9/11 2019 but was talked out of it. Trump and Pompeo basically negotiated our surrender and withdrawal and agreed to release the Taliban army and leadership without the governing Afghan govt even present. The Afghan govt and military we had set up at great cost, (American and Afghan lives including countless innocent civilians and $$$$$$$$$$ taken from the American people) to rule the country after we left were not even invited or consulted as Trump agreed to release their murderous enemies and abandon their country. Wtf ?! This incomprehensible snub of the Afghan government completely humiliated them and undermined their authority. It also destroyed confidence, morale and hope in the ranks as they realized they were being abandoned and the US was making deals with their enemy without them; undermining them while releasing 5000 hardened extremist enemy soldiers in their fragile new country. It was as if they wanted the Taliban to win and the democracy to fail. Maybe there could be a lot more money to make there down the road that way? (pointless, endless wars that cost trillions make me cynical) Ultimately there's plenty of blame to go around for both parties and 4 administrations for this whole debacle, but maybe one of the original intentions was to make an obscene amount of money for as long as possible. If that's the case it was a huge success for war profiteers and a complete disaster for everybody else, especially the Afghan people. In other words, just like most wars.

He is a manifestation of it. Instead of playing, he 'll be hired to teach the process.☺

I think Wilson is a bust and thought it before the Jets picked him. Mac Jones is another guy I expect to struggle and eventually bust.

offensive interference They need to call that when it is so obvious and one sided

We 'll see. I think he's a good player who's coming off an average year. Not saying he would have fit here but not gonna pretend he sucks. His two seasons before last years were top 10 in the league imo. QB rating 2019 65.8 2018 72.6 with low comp% and yards/tgt. I'm not lamenting the Bills not signing him but I think he 'll probably work out just fine for the Eagles.

Eric Kumerow's dad is Palmer Pyle, a former guard for the Colts, Vikings, and Raiders. Makes Jake 3rd gen NFLer.

I skipped over the Bosa 1st cousin connection assuming people were well aware. I didn't realize the elder Bosa and Kumerow were successive, identical first round picks for Miami though.

I know Rodgers was pissed when Green Bay cut him. He had just praised Kumerow to reporters and said he was a lock 2 days before they cut him. Rodgers said that drove him nuts and demanded in on personnel decisions. It definitely added to the rift. This was all according to Rappaport I think. So if the Bills don't want him it sounds like Rodgers might. His great grandpa was a Chicago mob boss Tony Accardo who came up through the ranks from street hoodlum to run the Chicago Outfit after Capone for 25 years. 'Big Tuna' Not relevant I realize, but interesting nonetheless.

Is the current stadium falling apart? I've been there over a hundred times but not in many years. I know they did some upgrades and improvements a little while ago but haven't seen it. Building a new stadium at the current site doesn't make economic sense to me unless the old one is no longer usable. How much added economic benefit could a new stadium generate in the same location? 1.5 Billion dollars of taxpayer money spent with little return when the current stadium is fully functioning and sells out every game? Doesn't seem like a great investment for taxpayers to me, especially non football fans; what are they getting for their money? It could be a tough sell. Also, I think they are making a mistake by threatening to move.

I agree and never said otherwise. Of course you give your high draft choices every chance to succeed. I'm just not assuming they will be successful pros or contribute much this year. ✌

Once again I never advocated for or against bringing in Houston. The only reason I even commented in this thread was in response to this assumption of yours before a single snap in either career: 'we know exactly who our pass rusher's are going to be for the forseeable future......all on cost controlled contracts.' It is disingenuous to put words in people's mouths and assume to know their unstated opinions for the sake of argument. Have a good day fellow Bills fan.

I never said anything about building with aging vets and I made no mention or advocacy for acquiring Houston. Wtf are you talking about? I merely pointed out that assuming two guys who have never played a down in the NFL will be starters for years to come is a ridiculous assumption. Add to that the fact that neither is considered a talented outside rusher and it's even more ridiculous. I'm not against those draft picks. I'm just not assuming they will be successful starters. Even if they do both work out they may not contribute very much this year, which is the very reason you bring in older proven vets on one year deals. Wtf is so hard to understand about that?

Are you being facetious? I can't tell. You do realize that not all draft picks become 'starters for the foreseeable future' ? Right? These guys were considered projects by the analysts and not particularly skilled as outside rushers. In fact both of them did a lot of their rush work from the inside. So if you're not being facetious, assuming these guys will be the answer on the outside for years to come is just ridiculous imo.

The season before last in Pitt. he graded out as the 6th best cb in the league. His defensive stats were elite. White and Gilmore were top 2 that year. cmp% qbrtg yds/trgt tds Nelson 50 65.8 6.6 0 Tre White 50 43.3 6.6 0 similar number of targets The year before that his numbers were elite again for KC, as good as White's were. Last season his numbers were more average. qbrtg was 95, (Tre's went up to 80). If he has a year even close to his 2018 and 2019 seasons he could be a huge difference maker for the Bills, especially if there are injuries. If he is average like last year he still improves the overall talent and depth. The Bills are thin at the pos group and that could become a problem. CB is not a position to be thin when you have all the ingredients in place for a championship. This year is the Bills best shot at a title since the SB run. I'll be psyched if they sign him.

I got rebounds for the Bucks at halftime and sat under the basket during a game at the Aud that year. I went to the game early with my older brother who was an usher. I was wearing my JC Penney Junior Buffalo Braves sweatshirt and was chosen to be the ball boy for the game. Alcindor stood next to me and handed me the ball to toss out to the shooters (changed his name later that year). Oscar Robertson shook my hand. I was 10 and will never forget it.

Good, I've never been a fan of joint practices. They make me nervous for reasons Yolo already alluded to. 3 preseason games is enough contact with other teams before the real games begin imo.

I was living and skiing in Park City UT at the time. A bunch of us skied Park West (The Canyons now) and then my buddy Herman from Montreal had a big Bills party for the game. I honestly don't remember much of the game but I know we had a blast.☺

My little brother and I were there, age 12 and 9. We would dash through the stadium following the Bills up and down the field. Big kickoff return TD, OJ romping for 200 and Chandler with 2 tds. I remember the frenzied electric crowd. That was an amazing day!

My older sister was absolutely crazy about Bob Chandler. In ' 73 she bought 3 season tickets and took 2 of her little brothers to each game (what an awesome sister). After one of the games, she spotted Chandler leaving and heading across the back lot to his car (she may have been stalking him😂). My sister took off running with me and my little brother, 12 and 9, chasing after her. After a long run we caught up to him, he couldn't have been nicer and after a brief chat he signed autographs for the 3 of us. He was definitely one of my favorite Bills as a kid.

For people saying Ertz had ***** QB play last year. Goedert caught 75% of his 64 targets for over 8yds/tgt and 3 tds Ertz caught 52% of his 68 targets for less than 5 yds/tgt and 1 td. 200 yds and 2 tds more for Goedert on 4 less targets than Ertz, same QB. I know he was banged up but I'm not confident he will ever be the player he was again and I definitely wouldn't trade a pick and pay 8 mil for 1 year to find out. Steven Nelson is the guy I hope they get. I think he would make a much bigger impact on the teams chances.

Not sure Breida would qualify as dark horse, but I think he will have a good year and make some big plays. He is one of the fastest rbs in the league. After not being invited to the 2017 combine he ran 4.37 in the 40, an incredible 42" vertical jump, and benched 225 23 times at his pro day. I think he has a lot to prove and will have success in Buffalo. His opportunities will increase as the year progresses and he establishes himself as the top threat.

Hollister will be the Bills top TE and top 15 in the league. ~50 rec. >500 yds. 5 tds Obada is my defensive pick Speak for yourself I know he's good.

Referring to fellow pro qb as a motherfu--ker? Is it personal? Or is Brady that much of an a??hole

Just guessing but it probably stems from the fact that he was not good in pass coverage. 115 passer rating when targeted. 4 tds surrendered on 60 targets 12.5 yds per catch 7 yards after catch/rec He was literally one of the worst MLB in the league at pass coverage. So that's probably where that came from.