transplantbillsfan

Kinda funny you're namecalling when you've been just trolling me for months now. Don't be upset, Shady. I know you're a little upset your boy Nate appears to be one of the worst QBs in NFL history, but what's happening is best for the team. I was wrong there. That should make you happy enough. The funny thing is that if fans so desperately wanted Allen to remain on the bench to protect him and let him learn, we never should have traded Taylor. Some of you were/are just too damn emotional to see that. Regardless, Allen wasn't named the starter for the season opener. He was named the starter for the home opener... the 2nd game of the season. Thus, the Allen Era begins!!!

Touche

As another poster earlier in the thread put it... duh

Whoop whoop!!!

You're being too negative after 1 bad game... as long as that 1 bad game gets Allen under center for the rest of the year.

All part of the process guys. McDermott has always known how much Peterman absolutely sucks, but he needs a scapegoat, or perhaps more accurately, he needs something for a below average (In terms of NFL talent) to rally around. Last year the team starts strong then has a string of a few bad losses. Naturally, the QB gets too much credit and too much blame, so to prove a point--it can get much, much worse--he puts in his secret weapon, a QB so abhorrently bad that he merely needs a single half to prove to the fan base that yes, indeed it can get much worse. This summer going into week 1, McDermott and Beane recognized long ago who was the best QB, but instead of keeping and starting the semi-average McCarron and treading water for a few games, maybe getting a win or two and in the process making it perhaps a little more difficult to start the much more talented rookie who will inevitably make plenty of mistakes to start his career, McDermott and Beane decide to suffer immensely immediately so that it can be less time-consuming or controversial of a switch by trading the competent QB and keeping the guy who will force the change himself through his terrible play--and quickly. Now that the entire team and fan base all suffered through that utter incompetence, they will rally behind Allen even more, giving him an even longer leash as he deals with his rookie growing pains. Meanwhile, Beane is working on the phone with teams he spoke with over the Summer about acquiring a cheap (but actually capable) backup QB. Wouldn't it be just friggin awesome if this were true

Nice screen shot. I'm going to come out and say right now that I think our WRs will suddenly get a lot better if they go into every game knowing Allen is throwing to them

Not as the primary reason, but it's an added bonus that it's apparently getting under your skin so much. I don't really understand why it is. But hey... you could always just ignore it the way you're ignoring me.... oh wait Are you just upset because your boy Nasty Nate is just so friggin awful?

The conversation's still relevant. Plus, it's entertaining watching the 2 of you get so annoyed.

I'm not happy Peterman sucked, but I'm not unhappy. Yesterday I wanted one of two things to happen. 1) Win and Peterman looks as "good" as he looked in preseason and shows we can win with him. OR 2) LA Chargers 2.0. I wanted #1 the most because I root for Ws all the time for the Bills, no matter what. And I'll even root for Peterman loud and hard if he's under center next week. But I've thought since I saw him last year in preseason that he just wasn't an NFL starting QB. And this preseason didn't change my mind. All of his great stats in the preseason was just so obviously (to me) manufactured by an offense predicated on very short passes and throws to wide open WRs in busted coverages playing against Defenses that were holding back. The guy is a mirage. Preseason all-star who benefits stats-wise from the things I mentioned above. But nothing about the throws he's making are indicative of an NFL starting QB. I wanted #1, but I'm also content with #2 because Peterman doesn't give us a shot this year. I'm still thinking playoffs. That's never happning with Picked-off-Peterman under center. We have that shot with Allen. So to me, our 2nd best result yesterday happened because now we can rip the band-aid off and give the young rookie a full season minus only 1 game rather than the 3 or 4 or 5 we'd have to suffer through if Peterman were mediocre or just marginally bad. In the end, a blowout Loss doesn't count against us anymore at the end of the year than a 3 point loss, so this Loss could end up preventing 1 or 2 more losses that would have happened on the year if he were still in there. Of course, all of that relies on McDermott making the QB change announcement on Wednesday, which I expect to happen. No, he didn't. He claimed the poll would auto lock. Not much of a reader, eh?

Eh, people are still talking about it. Mods are free to do what they will and lock it down at any point, but I think the fact that so many of us were basing our opinions on who would win the QB competition on who should win the QB competition have some vindication at this point makes this conversation quite relevant as we start our season.

There's no argument now. Peterman is absolutely awful and it's unfortunate that even our coach was deceived by the mirage of preseason production when it was pretty obvious that all that production was manufactured in the most vanilla setting there is.

I didn't listen to his PC and won't bother, but I believe if he were seriously starting Peterman again, he would have announced it today in order to try to let the fire kinda die down all week. Viewing almost anything McDermott says in public as anything other than coachspeak is just kinda funny. When listening to a PC by that guy you need to make sure you're on a very high sodium diet. Waiting for the Wednesday announcement just brings me back to the Trent/JP/Fitz days when we got all those announcements on Wednesday. I'm really going to be shocked at this point if Peterman is still the starter. This is our home opener and I could seriously envision the team getting booed before kickoff if Peterman is the starter. My bigger question isn't who our starting QB is this week, it's what we do about backup QB(s) for the rest of the year.

Did you guys really think he'd make the announcement today? Unlike his decision last year when he benched Tyrod, this is one he pretty much can't go back on so he'll need to make sure he talks with the players and his team. Why would he address the issue with the media and fans first?

Seriously just go back a month or two and look at some of the responses from particular posters saying things during the preseason like "Peterman's preseason performance is different! I never bought into the Jeff Tuel hype! He never looked the part!" Amazing what 1 half can do. Actually, it's amazing what 1 half--the 1st half against the Chargers--didn't do, which is shatter the legitimate belief that Peterman will ever be a viable NFL starter.

Allen wasn't great. He wasn't very good. He was good. He threw consistently catchable balls by NFL standards that were either not pulled in or flat out dropped. Yeah, he threw for 74 yards in 1 1/2 quarters, but it would have been a lot more along with at least a TD in there if his guys could catch. Calling him awful is pure lunacy.

I'm too lazy to hunt you down, have a friend or family member slap you

Then you didn't watch him play.

That's not the reality of those throws, but even if it were, it's better than softballs to the other team.

Just like I was what? Hiding? I never hid. Trolling? Like about Peterman because I wasn't high on his preseason play the way some of you were... perhaps blinded by the cloud of smoke as you exhaled? I wasn't trolling. I was telling it like it is. Surely today's results should assure you of that.

I think the Petermaniacs are in hiding and likely to wait a while to come back. One of them is rummaging around today as troll, though. Pretty hilarious.

Peterman starting again is already ruining my sleep cycle.

QBs? Plural? This is a joke, Right? Peterman blew chunks. Allen was good. So help me God if someone cites the fact he threw for 74 yards I'll slap him in the face. I think our WRs just needed most of the 2nd half to adjust to passes actually being thrown to them and being catchable. Next week when Allen is the starter and they're ready for it, the WRs, particularly Benjamin, can hopefully hold onto those accurate passes they dropped today.

What the hell does he tell his players at this point? I think you're right that he's going to be searching for an acceptable reason to start Peterman again. Is there one?