transplantbillsfan

The conversation's still relevant. Plus, it's entertaining watching the 2 of you get so annoyed.

I'm not happy Peterman sucked, but I'm not unhappy. Yesterday I wanted one of two things to happen. 1) Win and Peterman looks as "good" as he looked in preseason and shows we can win with him. OR 2) LA Chargers 2.0. I wanted #1 the most because I root for Ws all the time for the Bills, no matter what. And I'll even root for Peterman loud and hard if he's under center next week. But I've thought since I saw him last year in preseason that he just wasn't an NFL starting QB. And this preseason didn't change my mind. All of his great stats in the preseason was just so obviously (to me) manufactured by an offense predicated on very short passes and throws to wide open WRs in busted coverages playing against Defenses that were holding back. The guy is a mirage. Preseason all-star who benefits stats-wise from the things I mentioned above. But nothing about the throws he's making are indicative of an NFL starting QB. I wanted #1, but I'm also content with #2 because Peterman doesn't give us a shot this year. I'm still thinking playoffs. That's never happning with Picked-off-Peterman under center. We have that shot with Allen. So to me, our 2nd best result yesterday happened because now we can rip the band-aid off and give the young rookie a full season minus only 1 game rather than the 3 or 4 or 5 we'd have to suffer through if Peterman were mediocre or just marginally bad. In the end, a blowout Loss doesn't count against us anymore at the end of the year than a 3 point loss, so this Loss could end up preventing 1 or 2 more losses that would have happened on the year if he were still in there. Of course, all of that relies on McDermott making the QB change announcement on Wednesday, which I expect to happen. No, he didn't. He claimed the poll would auto lock. Not much of a reader, eh?

Eh, people are still talking about it. Mods are free to do what they will and lock it down at any point, but I think the fact that so many of us were basing our opinions on who would win the QB competition on who should win the QB competition have some vindication at this point makes this conversation quite relevant as we start our season.

There's no argument now. Peterman is absolutely awful and it's unfortunate that even our coach was deceived by the mirage of preseason production when it was pretty obvious that all that production was manufactured in the most vanilla setting there is.

I didn't listen to his PC and won't bother, but I believe if he were seriously starting Peterman again, he would have announced it today in order to try to let the fire kinda die down all week. Viewing almost anything McDermott says in public as anything other than coachspeak is just kinda funny. When listening to a PC by that guy you need to make sure you're on a very high sodium diet. Waiting for the Wednesday announcement just brings me back to the Trent/JP/Fitz days when we got all those announcements on Wednesday. I'm really going to be shocked at this point if Peterman is still the starter. This is our home opener and I could seriously envision the team getting booed before kickoff if Peterman is the starter. My bigger question isn't who our starting QB is this week, it's what we do about backup QB(s) for the rest of the year.

Did you guys really think he'd make the announcement today? Unlike his decision last year when he benched Tyrod, this is one he pretty much can't go back on so he'll need to make sure he talks with the players and his team. Why would he address the issue with the media and fans first?

Seriously just go back a month or two and look at some of the responses from particular posters saying things during the preseason like "Peterman's preseason performance is different! I never bought into the Jeff Tuel hype! He never looked the part!" Amazing what 1 half can do. Actually, it's amazing what 1 half--the 1st half against the Chargers--didn't do, which is shatter the legitimate belief that Peterman will ever be a viable NFL starter.

Allen wasn't great. He wasn't very good. He was good. He threw consistently catchable balls by NFL standards that were either not pulled in or flat out dropped. Yeah, he threw for 74 yards in 1 1/2 quarters, but it would have been a lot more along with at least a TD in there if his guys could catch. Calling him awful is pure lunacy.

I'm too lazy to hunt you down, have a friend or family member slap you

Then you didn't watch him play.

That's not the reality of those throws, but even if it were, it's better than softballs to the other team.

Just like I was what? Hiding? I never hid. Trolling? Like about Peterman because I wasn't high on his preseason play the way some of you were... perhaps blinded by the cloud of smoke as you exhaled? I wasn't trolling. I was telling it like it is. Surely today's results should assure you of that.

I think the Petermaniacs are in hiding and likely to wait a while to come back. One of them is rummaging around today as troll, though. Pretty hilarious.

Peterman starting again is already ruining my sleep cycle.

QBs? Plural? This is a joke, Right? Peterman blew chunks. Allen was good. So help me God if someone cites the fact he threw for 74 yards I'll slap him in the face. I think our WRs just needed most of the 2nd half to adjust to passes actually being thrown to them and being catchable. Next week when Allen is the starter and they're ready for it, the WRs, particularly Benjamin, can hopefully hold onto those accurate passes they dropped today.

What the hell does he tell his players at this point? I think you're right that he's going to be searching for an acceptable reason to start Peterman again. Is there one?

The positive is the change at QB that today forced. I honestly am optimistic about our season still. Peterman being so awful forced this change before we fell too much in the hole. I think the play of the entire team will get better when Allen is the starter

Great, now McBeane needs to find someone who can back him up.

Looks like the fans were right and McDermott was wrong, after all. The thing I like about McDermott is how quickly he autocorrects. Maybe Allen being on the bench and Peterman under center to start week 1 was predictable in your mind, it just clearly was the wrong move.

I don't think I have to. Peterman won't be on the field long enough. It's just funny that you can't admit today and last year against the Chargers were SooOOooo much worse than anything ANY other Bills QB has ever done. He was a LOT better.

Yay. You were right about Peterman starting in week 1. I just didn't think McDermott would make the same mistake twice. I was wrong. I'm glad he autocorrects quickly from his mistakes. This team will probably lay down on the field if McDermott trots Peterman out there again.

Strike a nerve? Taylor threw for 60 yards in that 1st half, more than double than Peterman. The team managed 4 1st downs in the 1st half, 4 times what Peterman could manage, The team actually scored in the 1st half, 7 points to the 0 points Peterman could score. It was actually STILL A GAME in the 1st half, which is much more than we could say about today. If Taylor was bad that day--which he was--isn't it fair to call Peterman's performance vomit-inducing? Stop talking.

Anyone who had to suffer through this utterly disgraceful conversation all Summer despite knowing what should have happened.