JaCrispy

SDS I really appreciate you allowing us to have this civil discussion...it has been a pleasure learning and sharing with my bills brethren...?

Stick around, it’s about to get good...?

Don’t bother with me?

If a black kid comes from a home that brings in over $200,000 and is able to send him to a private school, does he have more privilege than a white kid growing up in the sticks, whose family can barely make ends meet? serious question...

I agree...get a real MLB and move Edmonds to Milano’s spot...

On top of this, if I’m an owner looking for a HC, I want no stone left unturned- I’m looking for the best coaches regardless...

Well that’s only because most minorities didn’t play the position back in the day... But once they started playing at younger and younger ages, started playing the position in college, and now it’s prominent in the NFL...the free market worked. ? The talent couldn’t be denied and teams wanted to win!

With all due respect, I flat out disagree with this view with every fiber of my being....I disagree that there should be equal representation across all aspects of society based on population of race rather than competence of the individual....An owner should be FREE to choose the best course for HIS business...and while no way is perfect, allowing for more freedom (not less) is always the best way to ensure success...has nothing to do with the “way it looks”.

It seemed to work with black QBs in the league...they are more prominent than ever before, and there was no affirmative action rule or legislation that made it that way...people just recognized that those QBs are just as successful or more than whites...

Well, I’m fine with teams being required to interview minority candidates...but it seems like Steven A Smith and ESPN are not happy about that, and want more to be done... My issue with that view is that now you’re getting into the arena of trying to decipher intent of the people doing the interviewing and hiring- which is a slippery slope that people shouldn’t want to go down...

I figured...I’m the other way where I feel life isn’t perfect- and will never be...and typically if we artificially try to change an outcome, we usually create the same problem we are trying to fix...The issue in this thread is very similar to affirmative action- where people who claim they want equality are actually discriminating against another race of people to achieve it...Discrimination is bad, no doubt, but two wrongs don’t make a right in my book ? Like I said before, people should be allowed to hire whoever they want...if that means discriminating against the better candidate, so be it...their team will then suffer the consequences...for every action there is a reaction- that’s how the universe works...

I understand where you’re coming from but I think this might be getting too nit picky...who are we to say what interviews are fake or real? I think we start to cross a fine line once we do that...it’s like a previous poster said, the owner is going to want the best talent for his team...so if the owner chooses not to interview that candidate, then their “punishment “ is that they’re not getting the best talent...I don’t really see a need to put all these artificial designs to “fix” the system...more times than not it works itself out...

We shoulda hired Chan when we had the chance...

I don’t think the Rooney Rule sought to achieve anything but give OPPORTUNITY to those that weren’t given one...this IS NOT the same thing as guaranteeing employment. Our wonderful system was created to provide as close of a level playing field for people as possible...once you get into the business of forcing people to hire certain races over others, or accepting college applicants over others based on the color of their skin, then our society has gone too far and imho, that is immoral.

yes (without getting into politics) ?

Yeah but Brady had the higher completion % ?

This is how hyper sensitive some fans have become about the slightest criticism of Allen...makes it impossible to have rational dialogue...everyone’s automatically called a hater just to shut down the conversation...reminds me of Democrats calling everyone racist...?

This is a scary thought for the 7th overall pick...if we are just going to turn him into a game manager because he can’t be trusted with the ball in his hands, maybe we should just give Kyle Orton a ring...

Isn’t it funny we all wanted him gone for so long...now many fans want him to stay to we can knock his block off...?

I think you gotta consider OT in the first as well...

This much is true...however, recently I have wondered if the youth have more faith and hope, because they are not as jaded as some of us older guys...or do they have less faith and hope because they’ve never experienced greatness...?

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And people wonder why fans are not yet sold on him as a franchise QB...but I wouldn’t mind having a beer with him...does that mean I’m not a hater? ?

If he improved as much as you say, and he is still as bad as he is, we are in serious trouble... ? In all seriousness, he improved this year a little...but next year he really needs to put it all together imo...I feel like he’s on the 7 year development plan... By the time he throws a 300 yard game, the city should throw a ticker tape parade, erecting a statue that forever cements the occasion... I kid I kid...keep improving Josh...we all are counting on you... Go bills! ?

I don’t get depressed anymore about the Bills because I always expect to lose... And at the end of the game I was alright with it because it was super entertaining...