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Yeah. Maybe so. It just seems like we'd suddenly be stacked three-deep at that "Poyer role" with Rapp, Edwards, and Bullard, and still in need of a long term free safety. As you say, though, they still have plenty more picks to address that, and us fans probably make too much of the difference between the two safety spots in this defensive scheme anyway. On a separate note...I really think the Bills would have a hard time passing on the OT Saumataia here, "needs" be damned. He'd be quite the value here and, as a previous poster said, would allow them to let Brown walk for a compensatory pick and allocate that money elsewhere next year. I get the argument for wanting an immediate starter, and I understand that drafting a guy at a position most don't consider to be a "need" would irritate some, but...if you really do believe in taking the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE -- and particularly when said player plays a premium position -- you have to seriously consider Saumataia.

Isn't Bullard projected to be more of a big nickel, box player type? Less of a high safety? If so, it seems like we sort of already have that in-house with Rapp and, to some extent, Edwards. Maybe I'm crazy, but...I'm not sure he fits what the Bills need at safety right now. I can't be a victim of group-think here, so I'm gonna cast my vote elsewhere on this list.

With the 57th pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE, Western Michigan The Buccaneers had to double-check the draft results thus far because they couldn't believe this guy was still on the board at pick 57. After letting Shaquil Barrett walk in free agency and only signing the aging Randy Gregory, and with Joe Tryon-Shoyinka not progressing as hoped, edge rusher was a very big need for us. Whereas the value didn't match in round one, it more than matches now. Kneeland was our 5th ranked edge rusher in this class. We actually had a late 1st/early 2nd round grade on him. He has good size and thickness, heavy hands, and a motor that never stops. We had a formal visit with him at the combine and hosted him for a top 30 visit. We felt he was a perfect match for our scheme, and we're excited to be able to add him at this point in the draft. **I really wanted to take a receiver here because it's such a deep and quality receiver class, and I didn't want to miss out on the fun. But if I'm really trying to think like the Bucs GM, I've gotta go with the much bigger need, a player whose value is too good to pass up, and a guy that the Bucs have done a ton of work on in real life** The Stadium Wall Poll Committee @Virgil @section122 and the beloved Buffalo Beews are now on the clock.

Interesting to see the first running back come off the board. Certainly makes sense that it would be the Cowboys. While we all have our predictions and preferences, I doubt any of us can say with much confidence who the first back off the board will actually be come draft time. Pick makes sense. I like Benson, FWIW. That said, the Bucs will submit their pick momentarily. Stand by.

In all my years at TBD, no one has ever wished urinary discomfort on me before. I guess the streak was bound to end sooner or later. p.s. I was heavily considering Ricky Pearsall here, but you took him with your amended pick. My how the turntables...

With the 53rd pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M. After addressing our biggest need in round one with CB Terrion Arnold, we were thrilled to be able to address our next biggest need with our 2nd round pick by taking the top rated linebacker on our board. Cooper is an intense, aggressive player, a hard hitter, and has top line speed for the position. He is EXACTLY what Vic Fangio looks for in a linebacker, and he'll be able to spend a year spelling and learning from starters Devin White and Nakobe Dean. The former is only on a one-year deal, and if Cooper progresses as quickly as we think he will, he has a good chance to earn a starting spot by year two, if not sooner. @Virgil and the morally bankrupt Cleveland Browns are on the clock.

I like it. As soon as @Virgil amends the Guyton pick, I'm ready to make my selection and keep this thing rolling.

I first saw the notion of Godwin being moved mentioned recently. Makes sense, now that they've paid Evans a big pile of money. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-trade-rumors-zach-wilson-chris-godwin-among-players-who-could-still-be-moved-before-or-during-draft/ Granted, with a $20million+ cap number himself this year, the deal might need to be done post June 1st, and Beane would have to be ready with an extension/restructure of some sort. That said, it's hard to imagine Godwin commanding the same type of money as Aiyuk or Higgins going forward. From a Bills cap perspective, I'm not sure how feasible it is. From a pure football standpoint, he'd be a quality addition, and likely wouldn't command nearly the capital or money that Aiyuk/Higgins would.

My favorite scenario thus far presented has been to use our 1st round pick on a receiver, then also use a mid round pick to trade for a veteran receiver -- think Chris Godwin or Deandre Hopkins. Personally, I'd rather not go the "trade a 1st or 2nd for a veteran receiver that you immediately have to pay a bunch of money to" route again. I'd rather get a youngster that would be cheap labor for four seasons, could grow with Josh, and could spend a decade+ here. And then, if they want to bring in another impact receiver, I'm fine with it being a somewhat older guy that won't require a mega-extension. On the one hand, yes, you have instant impact from a veteran that a rookie theoretically will not provide. But on the other hand, you have to pay said veteran around $30 million, and I'd just...rather not do that. Give me a 1st round receiver and then trade a mid round pick for a trusty vet. That's the route I like.

You've taken on a different tone in this thread than I've ever seen from you here before. It's like the mere insinuation that Rice MIGHT face some legal repercussions has put you enough on edge that you shout down anyone who dares to mention the possibility. I get it, he's a very good player for your favorite team, and you don't want to believe that he'll miss any time, so the notion makes you defensive, so you push back against anyone who suggests it. But perhaps you could push back against the notion in a less condescending, less forceful way? Like...it's a message board. There is room for contrary opinion. Or not. You do you. Just don't act surprised and victimized when, after several pages of essentially accusing anyone with a different view of the legal outcome in this case of being a bonehead, people suddenly get a bit fed up with the Chiefs fan who has decided to make it his job to tell all the Bills fan on a BILLS FORUM how wrong they are.

The longer this thread goes on, the worse you're making yourself look, Billl. I'm even in agreement with you on the fact that not much will likely ultimately come of the Rashee Rice stuff, but...you're just not doing yourself any favors with with your hostility, condescension, and insults here. Any time someone even insinuates that Rice MIGHT be in for some more serious legal trouble (which, again, I happen to think is unlikely), you turn rude and hostile, if not outright confrontational. At this point, I'm starting to feel like maybe you should go back to Chiefs Planet. Your demeanor might fit in better there.

It makes sense to me. Unless they suddenly change their WR archetype, I think they'll continue to go after the quick route technician types, which makes sense, because Allen has generally thrived with them. Conversely, whenever he's had a stiffer, big-bodied guy -- and granted, the sample size is small, with only Gabe Davis and the ghost of Kelvin Benjamin coming to mind -- he hasn't had as consistently successful of a connection. It also makes sense from a yards-after-catch standpoint. I think they want guys who can gain clear separation, and then do damage after the catch. If that's a correct assumption, then McConkey, Worthy, Franklin, and Legette (and Nabers, but they likely can't get up high enough to get him) all make sense.

If the Visits list and the recent Tweets by ECB are to be believed... The Bills have done the most work (wide receiver wise) on McConkey, Worthy, Franklin, and Pearsall. I notice a common them there: lighter, faster guys and route technician types. Following in the footsteps of John Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, and Stefon Diggs. Just thought it was interesting, and y'all can take it with as big a grain of salt as you like.

Glad you found a partner and got your guy 😉

Ugh. AD Mitchell grosses me out. I just cannot get excited about him. I'd love for someone who's a big AD Mitchell fan to tell me why I'm wrong.

With the 26th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Jackson Powers-Johnson, C, Oregon Our interior offensive line direly needs reinforcements. Our running backs were constantly met in the backfield last year. We also want to be able to consistently create a strong pocket for our height-challenged quarterback, Baker Mayfield. Incumbent starting center Robert Hainsey is a replacement level player, and we simply felt that the time was right to upgrade the second most critical position on the offensive line. Powers-Johnson should be starter "off the bus", as Doug Whaley would say. We expect him to come in and anchor the line from day one. His thick frame, heavy hands, and nasty demeanor should make him a top level center in this league for years to come. We would've been very tempted to take an edge rusher here and wait until round two for interior line help, but after a run on the position in round one, we didn't feel anyone of proper value was left at this pick. Powers-Johnson, meanwhile, stood out on our board at a position of need. @Alphadawg7 and the Arizona Tiny Fightin' Murrays are on the clock.

Perfect fit for the Packers. Well done.

I KNEW I liked you...

I know it's easy to cast aspersions at Mr Simpson, but... Who among us has not murdered our wife and her waiter friend a time or two, and then, after acquittal, written a book called "If I Did It"? Let he who has not committed a double murder and then brazenly mocked the justice system via a cheeky, taunting book publication cast the first stone!

Dolphins: have Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle, made an offer to OBJ, and have been linked to Xavier Worthy and Ricky Pearsall in the pre-draft process. Jets: Have Garrett Wilson and Mike Williams, but might draft Brock Bowers or Rome Odunze Chiefs: Have Travis Kelce and Rashee Rice, but signed Hollywood Brown and will likely draft a receiver high. Bengals: Have JaMarr chase and Tee Higgins, may draft an offensive playmaker high. Bills: ....likely to stay put or trade down and take the 7th or 8th best receiver in the class to pair with Curtis Samuel and Khalil Shakir? I understand the argument for the "Packers model", but it's hard to see some of the other AFC teams doing all they can to get premium weapons, and then consider the notion of the Bills maybe just being happy with whatever's left at 28. I know no one knows anything yet, and it's too early for this talk, but...Bills fans and everyone else in the football watching world have been talking for three offseasons now about getting Josh more help. If their version of that is to jettison Stefon Diggs and then trade down into the 2nd to draft whoever's left at WR....color me slightly worried that that mission will have been accompished.

I'm fine with the $100, but... if I take Virgil to Lumpy Humpy Day, it'll be HIM who is, um...enacting a stiff penalty.

If the Bills don't roll out the red helmets and throwback sets now, they're just throwing money away. Judging by social media, fan demand is incredibly high for them, and tons of people would happily shell out money for the new merchandise. I'm honestly not sure why they haven't rolled them out already, unless they're waiting for the new stadium or planning to make a primary uniform switch. People want the red helmets twice a year. Give them the red helmets. I really, truly don't understand why they haven't done this yet.

Outstanding post. Really good stuff. Thanks!

The Bills misused Deonte Harty. He was an excellent deep threat with the Saints. I could count on one hand the amount of times the Bills threw Harty a deep ball. Instead, they pigeon-holed him into the gadget/jet sweep/McKenzie role, and it just never worked with him. Mind you, I'm not saying he's some great talent or anything. But he definitely has more to offer than what the Bills did with him. Total waste of a contract, and I put more of the blame on them than him. Oh well. Gone now. So long and happy trails.

I'm just going to say that he was one of the top five greatest running backs in NFL history, his highlight film is amazingly fun to watch, and he was an all time great Buffalo Bill, and leave it at that. May whatever lies ahead for him in the great hereafter befit the total sum of his lifetime here on earth.