Boatdrinks

Memories....Misty water colored memories.....

Ahh yes, the tailgating... At some point it would be great if the tailgate became secondary to the football. It actually was at one time. GMs and coaches do not get to use the if I had a do over excuse to keep their highly paid posts. They need to be right or they will be fired. Bills fans deserve good football after the last twenty or so years of futility.

It won’t happen, but he’d be exactly what you want in that spot.

As fans we always hope we see players improve and pan out because they won’t be able to fill every hole on the offense. Chances are pretty good the puck will be a high one anyway, and the draft is a crapshoot that the FO seems spotty on. Hope for the bird in hand at as many positions as possible as opposed to a slightly higher draft spot. Even the lowly Raiders ( post Amari Cooper) seem very capable of scoring multipleTDs vs the Colts team that nearly blanked the Bills.

The Eagles had the offensive talent to match up with the Pats* and decided ifthey were going down it would be swinging. Nothing less. It was an aggressive strategy that worked. The problem for the Bills is they have none of what the Eagles did on offense. Creativity, WR and TE talent, a bruising “ closer” at RB etc. Their strategy will likely be the failed one you describe ,to limit offensive possessions for NE so they don’t get embarrassed. If a team has a decent offense, the strategy should be to take chances and score points. Then hope you get the ball last or leave a very limited clock for NE at the end. This almost worked for the Chiefs a couple weeks ago, but they scored too quickly rather than running a 4 minute offense. It bit them in the end. The only thing that’s ever affected Brady to any great degree is middle pressure. They do a good job of protecting in the middle of the Oline. If you can’t get through there consistently , the other stuff won’t matter all that much.

And the long, slow decline began...

The other 3 rookie QBs have looked better at passing the football than Allen from what I’ve seen. I’d put Rosen last overall though due to his lack of all around “ game” and leadership/ toughness. If I had to guess, I’d say his top end would be something like a Sam Bradford type. Often banged up and never quite getting it done.

You underestimate the depths that the Bills offense is capable of scraping. Don’t lose hope.

That’s cool if you’re satisfied to use the old trope about hindsight to excuse a lack of foresight. These people are paid a lot of $$ to be right. It goes even deeper than that though, right to ownership. Hiring a HC before replacing a lame duck GM etc. One error leads to another. As for the HC benching the QB, Alex Smith struggled last year. Even losing to the Bills while they were mired in a slump. His HC didn’t bench him for Mahomes. The potential for McD to handle things properly was there though, and it took 3 horrendous games by Taylor to play Peterman. It’s conceivable that he could have played Mahomes there, but would you argue that such a move would ruin him as a QB? What if he came in and threw four TDs ? It’s laughable to mention Mahomes in the same breath while talking about Peterman.

By coaching in Cleveland ...

So you’d prefer the PC non position , rather than getting his thoughts out there before the liberal media mob could spin the situation? Cool. I’m sure all headlines, narratives on CNN et al were just focusing on the victims.

Nice straw man there, not even close to what I said. In fact, I’ve said the opposite in this very thread. I’ll repeat no one in their right mind thinks that Mahomes would duplicate his current performance here. However, Mahomes could have been drafted, sat a year behind Taylor, different player decisions made by the FO etc. You must think Mahomes would be terrible in Buffalo, Allen would set records in KC etc?

It’s woven in to the fabric of being a fan of this team. Look on the bright side, though. What on earth must they talk about on the Pats* boards ;Giselle’s wardrobe at the Super Bowl ?

Acknowledging Bills missteps is hardly a woe-is-me position. It’s valid discussion on a fan message board. How is hiring a defensive coach who has demonstrated little ability to assemble anything on the other side of the ball akin to Andy Reid ? The Bills ownership and FO seems to favor 1970’s NFL football. It’s a huge concern for Bills fans hoping their team decides to join the modern NFL.

Terrible analysis. What he said was more along the lines of “ maybe we have to re-think our notions of security/ safety at traditionally soft targets. We are living in a different world than in the past “. Not really political at all, just acknowledging the reality of the situation.

It takes talent and coaching to win. Sadly, this team has only managed to arrive at the confluence of both a couple of times in its existence.

Bad take. Nobody thought Brady was any good, and even the team that drafted him passed on him in many rounds. A fluke pick that any team could have made or not. The last couple rounds are more luck than anything else. They are not a measure of organizational competence. He wasn’t able to produce that much offense though. It’s the QB more than not.

Yes, it all comes back to Josh Allen and what he turns out to be. Passing on your biggest need for a CB ( regardless of how good the player is ) is going to be questioned.

I don’t think anyone in their right mind thinks Mahomes performance would be identical if he were in Buffalo. He may just be a better QB than the four rookies will ever be, and the Bills had the opportunity to draft him without moving up. They also could have sat him for a year. It’s not as ridiculous a notion as you make it out to be.

I’ll conjure a guess, regardless of anyone’s stance on the 2018 QBs. Many fans have shifted their focus onto the possibility the Bills waited a year too long to address their QB deficiency.

The Bills GM and FO would have been fine, because they did draft Kelly, after all. That idiot secretary though, she would have caught serious hell on TSW.

The defense is very bad. In the current NFL, however it may not matter much. Last year’s SuperBowl had about one major defensive play. It was significant to the outcome, but defense has taken a back seat for awhile now.

While I hope the Mahomes thing doesn’t become the Bills fan’s lament for the next decade, I don’t think the frustration is born of hindsight. Rather, it’s from the Bills ownership / FO’s lack of foresight. This is a major distinction. The only way it “ goes away” is if the Bills success with Allen is comparable to the Chiefs with Mahomes ( Watkins if you want to add him in) over a period of time.

Nope. Largely beacuse most of them didn’t think Allen was any good to begin with. They consider his surrounding cast irrelevant.

It’s well worn territory on this board, but I can’t disagree with your assessment on the offensive side of things.