Boatdrinks

Dangerous “ misinformation “ to the lefties. Lol

They are wackos who have twisted and perverted a message to fit their own mindless notions.

Lame. He was referring to people who were there simply to protest the removal of some statues . Not everyone there was in that wacko group you’re referring to.

Wow, people seem terrified to go out and about. The economy isn’t going to rebound when we open anyway ,so we may as well stay locked down for a few years.

I expect toilet paper to be flying off the shelves tomorrow morning.

Who should be on it then ; a park ranger in the Catskills ? She’s a powerful business woman, and we need to reopen businesses. The great thing is, none of those thousands of people in the small spaces is forced to be there. They’re paying for the privilege.

True. Still trying to figure out the nonsensical hoarding of toilet paper, though. Ongoing, but to a lesser degree.

Um no, an artificial closing of America / world has led to that. Where’s the ready to go replacement ? Oh, that’s right we don’t have one yet. Come back in about 50 plus years ...

Maybe , in another 5 to 10 decades. I mean, I’m sure most people would buy a vehicle that ran on hydrogen if it were available at a comparable price , had great performance like a gasoline powered car, and fueling stations were widely available, right ? Free market competition says it would exist already if there was a way. Nobody has managed to do this yet, same with heating homes etc. There’s money to be made with such innovations, but no one has managed yet. We don’t have anything better, at least not yet. There’s a new project for you while self isolating; you could make millions .

Is there even such a rapid test available ? In the amount needed , which would be massive ? Imagine going to say, five places in a given day and being tested each time. I just don’t see this as a realistic thing.

Well, they are pretty important, no ?

Lol, although I must say for me personally Obama allowing travelers to bring back Cuban cigars and rum with them for personal use is a great thing. The absolute best thing he did in 2 terms as President !

Yes, we need to control new cases to some degree, and make sure we have hospital capacity ( not extreme excess) to deal with an inevitable increase in cases in a manageable way. Another shutdown is not an option, period. Any acute problems should be addressed but a nationwide closedown of the economy can never happen again. The country won’t survive.

And then ....what ? Any individuals status is fluid and could change day by day.

So you think the first real case in the USA was January 20th ? Look at the number of cases and degree of infection on both coasts and in the southeast. I’d be inclined to think the virus actually was here before that, but that’s beside the point. The USA is not South Korea. While the testing / tracing did not begin early enough here, why did the Governor of whichever State that was in not take drastic action ? Our country is set up quite differently from South Korea. The issue of rejecting the test kits is certainly valid, and should be questioned.

While I’m not dismissing testing as an effective tool, I’m extremely skeptical that the USA can use South Korea as any kind of template because it wasn’t caught here early enough. The testing thing seems to have become a blame placing measure , and yes I believe there is a lot of political motivation behind the lockdowns. The economy is a huge thing in Presidential elections. While the economy isn’t exactly going to to pick up where it left off, we can’t leave it shut down. It just cannot work that way. The virus absolutely will be an issue to some degree, but many will get back to some semblance of normalcy and adapt. Look how many people turn out when they open a beach somewhere. Medically, we may be going about things the wrong way ,if we examine the numbers. Having a lot of younger , healthy people get this virus could be the best thing that can happen. Anyway we cannot just throw up our hands and tank the nation into a depression because it might be a slow recovery. This virus is here to stay, and the sooner people admit that to themselves and move on the better. We are way past the point of a perfect solution barring a miracle. This is my opinion, of course and others will have varying opinions too. Let’s not kid ourselves that politics isn’t behind a lot of this media driven fear mongering. Cuomo has already said “ let’s use this to reimagine a better New York” or some crap like that. These Governors are using the Covid 19 crisis to enact progressive policies and turn their states into more of a liberal la-la land. It’s a progressive fantasy world for them right now, having Americans walk around in face coverings, sitting home waiting for government checks and being controlled like sheep.

Increasing testing doesn’t reduce the percentage of positives. The virus clearly has taken hold much more in the USA than South Korea. We are past the point of major containment, and we’ve already shut down the economy for too long. We can’t ramp up testing and think that it’s going to reduce the amount of infection present in the populace. So yes, in a sense that kind of testing is “ too hard” to execute at this point because there just isn’t that kind of capacity in the system for the current tests. That could change with a major breakthrough down the road, but we no longer have the luxury of time. Whoever that quote is from seems to want to blame the “ Feds” by focusing on testing while ignoring the fact the virus took a deep hold in the USA probably since December or so. This is a politically driven opinion from someone with an agenda; most likely the November election.

This thing isn’t nearly as deadly as Spanish Flu. I don’t know if anyone was asymptomatic with that ; ive seen estimates as high as 45% asymptomatic with Wuhan. Still not sure what level of testing you are envisioning but we don’t have the luxury of time it would take for major breakthroughs. The country will literally crumble to pieces. We still don’t have a vaccine for any of the other known Coronaviruses, fwiw.

You may be referencing a more recent comment. I am referring to one she made a couple of weeks ago that debunked the notion of daily testing before work etc. It was not in reference to antibody test.

Testing to what degree and in what fashion ? There is not going to be a perfect scenario. Dr Birx has already stated that there will never be the capacity to test on a daily basis or anything like that. Anyone can test negative today but positive 3 days from now. Safe is the most overused term I’ve heard with regard to reopening , and it’s fantasy. It’s not going to be completely “ safe” because the virus isn’t going anywhere. Politicians are hiding behind a false choice scenario. Contact tracing of positive cases is about the best we can do. Some level of social distancing initially upon reopening will help. An individual focus on hygiene and some personal discretion exercised by those who fall into vulnerable categories will be necessary going forward.

I know in Erie County the County Exec has stated repeatedly that anyone who has symptoms can get tested through their provider or through the County if they do not have one. No shortage of tests according to him. As for testing to tell where the virus might be breaking out I highly doubt that a system like that is even remotely possible. They can test the symptomatic and attempt to contact trace , which might be somewhat effective. Very hard to nail down contacts to that degree. I think there is a lot of magical thinking out there when it comes to testing. It can help, but it’s not a panacea. There is no way that everyone, everywhere is going to be virus free when things open up. Have to keep some extra hospital space available to stay ahead of the increase in cases, but even that has its limits. The draconian lockdowns are driving hospitals out of business and leading to furloughs of medical personnel. That’s ludicrous.

I can’t take anything Cuomo says as fact. The Michigan Gov has proven to be moronic as well. Not sure about Maryland, but most of these people seem to be stalling, moving goalposts, etc.

Lord Cuomo had a bazillion dollar deficit b4 Corona ....tremendous

We have a high rate of obesity and heart disease

It is the responsibility of the states.