Boatdrinks

Agree. They will be the main competition for the Bills long term, not the Jets. I’ll take a wait and see approach with the Pats* for now; they’re an unknown at the moment .

Pretty apparent Hopkins wasn’t available to AFC teams , or he’d be on one right now. Not on an AZ team that isn’t an immediate SB contender for what appears to be low compensation for the quality of player. As for the Bills trade, we don’t know the outcome. The compensation was fair for a 26 year old WR1. Since we can’t really grade until we know the result, I’m grading now on making the move required to immediately give the 3rd year QB a top target and bring the passing offense into the 21st century. For that, I give an A. We can’t deal in “ I’d like the best WR in the league for X” as that’s not reality.

Not at all the same. That trade was more risky as it was for a draft pick; an unproven NFL talent. That’s not Diggs. It was a deep draft for WRs. Allen is entering his critical 3rd year, not his second. This move fits the timeline for building a championship contender, and it’s a logical next step. No similarity between these trades at all. Doesn’t involve next year’s first either.

Yep, otherwise just scrap the FB altogether. Either find the next Jusczyk ( he was McDs original FA target, after all) or eliminate the position like most teams have.

Knew he wouldn’t put himself in the AFCW.

Yeah, I’d prefer the pass rusher, but all depends what’s out there and the cost.

Look at recent comps for real world value, not someone’s chart. There are many charts out there and they’re simply a guideline or starting point. Markets also change , they’re not static. Go into a real estate deal and say “ the chart says it should cost X” and see where it gets you.

Charts are all well and good as a guideline, but it’s not the real world. No way you’re getting in the top ten from 22 without giving up a lot more than what the Bills gave for Diggs. They also have a 3rd year QB and can’t wait solely on a 1st round wideout to develop. It’s a good trade, and a fair one. They certainly didn’t steal Diggs, but the fact that Hopkins isn’t calling a new AFC team his home speaks volumes here.

Definitely not surprised. Great player and it’s too bad, but his story should be heeded by all players. A cautionary tale to any who try to make a 1970’s style tackle.

So the “ bar “ was an historically bad trade by an incompetent GM/ HC in O’ Brien. Got it.

This puts it in perspective. A move up for a Jeudy or Lamb would have cost a lot more. I’ll take a proven WR for that price with my 3rd year QB. Think NO other AFC team would pay more than AZ did for Hopkins ? Not likely.

Yep. No one would think twice if O’Brien didn’t make an awful deal earlier in the day. A deal that wasn’t happening with an AFC team anywhere near contention. Plenty of teams would give a 1 for Hopkins, that was an NFC specific deal and they had to settle for less.

Nah, it’s just the legal tampering period right now. Not actual free agency. Bills leaks have been few and far between since Beane took over.

Fine with this. He’s not good enough.

Gave up on that years ago. I’d like him gone ASAP

I agree with Bove to a point t. It’s fine to be in a good position financially, but they’re now at a point where they have to improve the team in a big way. Championship must be the goal !

They’ll wait out the crazy deals. Maybe a trade in the works? I can see them waiting for the dust to settle, Beane has $$ but wants value

Yep, and just played them in a very close playoff game that may have ended differently if the Bills had Hopkins.

Just saw this, totally crazy

I generally like this guy’s takes when he’s a guest on WGR. Very interesting and enlightening guy, but his tweet here is way off base imo. To the contrary , it’s just what fans need and what the league should be doing.

It would be up there no doubt. I’d like to see them show some concern over their inability to score points by actually getting better at it, though. Not just constantly tinkering with the defense.

That will never change imo. Teams have done this forever, so I see nothing that will affect this price gouging policy from continuing.

New York ( among some other states) will be a veritable wasteland when Cuomo is finished with it. I noticed he teamed up with other lib Govs to make sure people couldn’t go to a nearby state to get a meal, drink etc.

Not much, but there’s business to be done. Life must go on. I think this is a sensible compromise. You don’t need a live audience for the draft.

What a Foolio