Boatdrinks

Being that scared means nothing about science. It means you really haven’t looked into the numbers. You’ve been sold a bill of goods , Tibs. Stripping away of freedoms is far more scary than the virus.

The meek and fearful can refuse to work and hide in a cave. It’s America, and they are free to do so if they wish. Personally, I have continued to go to work the entire time. It’s not too dangerous for the overwhelming majority of people. It’s not the plague. Most people are not cowards, as well. They want to work. Man will always fight to be free. We’ve worked and lived through much more dangerous and “ unsafe” things than the Wuhan virus through the centuries.

No, Foolio that’s not what I mean. . I mean state governments. Some have become downright tyrannical , in case you haven’t noticed. Freedom is not free, and we the people may have to fight for it again...within our very own country.

The entire premise of this is dumb and dangerous. There might not ever be a vaccine. It could take a decade or more; who knows. What we do know is that we cannot let this virus become an excuse to destroy the very freedoms Americans enjoy; to effectively rip up the Constitution.Hopefully , such draconian measures will be fought vigorously by the people. The next revolution might be coming if idiots like this WaPo writer get their way.

Sick of all that, plus the incessant “ social justice” spots on NFLN. Actually, I’m sick of BB’s dog too.

It’s really simple. Just assume that everyone around you ( even those you know personally) are infected and contagious. If that makes you want to wear a mask as a measure of protection, go ahead and wear one. Not really a problem. Mandating the wearing of face covering in America - that’s a problem.

I’d be inclined to agree with you. Especially after examining the NYC data. It’s just the usual Tibs overreacting to some minutiae or a slight overstatement to ignore / dismiss the greater point.

Oh he’ll win another term as Governor, I believe . Mostly due to the reasons you stated.

There is some risk. It’s definitely not impossible ; there are documented cases. The larger point of his post is correct, though.

The man who said America wasn’t “ that great” ? I don’t believe he’d win, but a very sad situation if he did.

Yep, and the germ infested mass transit system must stay open . Meanwhile, golfers must walk the course because having one person per cart ( disinfected after every round) isn’t safe. The man is an idiot !

Yep, and there was probably no keeping it out. Which state had the first confirmed case in and why didn’t the governor lockdown and contact trace/ test ? Probably a lost cause by that time but who knows ? A lot of blame shifting going on and refusal to admit the reality that this virus isn’t going anywhere.

Personally, I am not a fan. He’s often vague and relatively dismissive when any questions about reopening anything is brought up. It’s always not enough testing, or we need more antibody testing in more areas of the county, or cases remain steady etc. Of course as testing increases, so do cases. His timeline on the curve, peak whatever constantly shifts, as do the goalposts. Flattening the curve has morphed into “ when its safe” or avoiding the second wave. He’s in lockstep with Cuomo, as far as I can tell.

It has kept numbers down for now, but we also know that the virus is going to be around. Waiting for things to be “ safe” isn’t an option. Continued social distancing practices of some type and even continued self isolation by choice for some would be best going forward imo.

While that’s not spread casually ( as we know) I agree. Polio has been brought up in some threads. I wasn’t around during the time of Polio , but I’m pretty certain there were sporting events, restaurants, bars etc. Current generations have largely been shielded from infectious illnesses, and that seems to have led to mindless panic and governmental overreach in some places.

If it’s an ask and not a requirement I’m all for it. I won’t begrudge anyone exercising their personal choice, whatever that is.

I agree steadfastly with your position. I also wish you the best of health and good fortune.

Dangerous territory. Simply existing in an area should not be considered an act of intent vs someone else’s health. Individual rights stand above all. No one has a right to perfect health. Vagaries of nature exist. Someone can get influenza and die; they certainly got it from someone else. Again not saying this is influenza, but the idea is the same. We must take ultimate responsibility for our own health, even if that means avoiding certain situations for some people.

It is to me, and I wear a covering now only in protest. Face covering( not a mask) with various messages - I have a few of them. Also either a Trump hat or a **** Cuomo hat. Freedoms / rights should never be surrendered lightly imo.

If Lord Cuomo said it was okay, I’d go to a restaurant or sporting event tomorrow. I’ll get on a flight as soon as restrictions are lifted for travel to my favorite vacation Island . If there is more space between seats and more expensive tickets that’s fine. Not big on movie theaters, but I never have been. Couple times a year proposition for me, but others feel differently. Schools are probably okay now, but shelve it until the fall if they want to.

It’s too restrictive and we are not a society that wears face coverings. Personal choice is best.

It makes plenty of sense, and there’s no contradiction. Most individuals infected with Coronavirus will recover. A small percentage won’t,, others will need medical care. It’s largely based on your individual health factors and genetics. The people should be free to go about life, and incorporate the existence of a new virus into their overall risk assessment. People make these decisions every day of their lives to varying degrees. This is no different . Which business we patronize or activities we participate is up to the individual , and that is as it should be.

Masks should be optional in the USA. No one is going to sit in a restaurant to eat or go watch a game at a bar with a mask on, anyway. Those who wish to stay home or wear an N 95 mask can do so. Influenza is also contagious, so where does it stop ? The overwhelming majority of those who do get infected with Covid 19 will recover, and a large portion will have no symptoms. Personal responsibility and personal risk assessment win over trampling freedoms. Spacing is a reasonable concession for a time.

NYC is really it’s own state in many ways and needs to be treated differently. No one is driving from Flushing to West Seneca for a haircut.

We will see exactly what this means, I guess. With Cuomo , and to an increasing extent Poloncarz, I expect the worst. I’ll hope for the best, but neither one of them inspires much confidence. It’s pretty clear from the numbers ( actual results and not projections) that it’s largely an individual health issue. The governments role at this point should exclusively deal with maintaining capacity in the health care system, not restricting the rights of the people to go on with daily life.