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And most people find masks uncomfortable , so they inevitably touch their faces multiple times and touch the mask while adjusting it. Amazing that gloves were immediately dismissed as ineffective by the media after their flaws were pointed out. However, Fauci’s original take on masks was similar to the issues brought up with gloves,( right down to providing a “ false sense of security) and he said they weren’t needed.

Trust no one.

Not really. What is needed is to trust no one...assume everyone near you could be carrying Covid 19 and a. Wash your hands frequently b. Maintain your distance from others c. Don’t touch your face d. If you must cough, sneeze and can’t control it, turn away and do so into your elbow. That will help more than platitudes about “ togetherness” etc etc.

Yes, she does. If (half)Whitmer wasn’t a woman, she’d be described as having a very punchable face lol. She is the very definition of a liberal tyrant. Just a power mad, nanny state loving dictator.

Without all the details/ minutiae this is the conclusion that Fauci had when initially asked about the wearing of masks. We are not a mask / facecover wearing culture, so in the recesses of our mind masks have a sinister and mysterious connotation. They keep us at a heightened sense of risk/ fear and that is really the intention.

I agree with this. Some may say your words are cold and unfeeling, but that’s really just semantics. This ( and wars) are harsh realities that involve difficult, even brutal decisions. Not for the faint of heart, but they must be made. As a country, there is a sizable faction doing everything they can to make the wrong one.

What a mess. Hospitals have been incentivized to classify anything as Covid 19. Yet those very statistics are what Governors are using to keep people locked down and out of work.

Maybe it will take Politician’s fear of the insurrection act to make them lift the extreme and burdensome lockdown measures .

This shows just how pointless these lockdowns are now. Many recent positives are reporting they’ve been staying at home. Yes, there are still going to be many , many more cases of Coronavirus out there. Why can’t they admit this ? It’s not a failing of government, just a fact. Let businesses operate, with guidelines and continue to test. Quarantine positive cases and trace contacts. Clean, disinfect , continue on with business. Continuing these stupid lockdowns as if there will be some magical date where the virus is no more is not only disheartening, it’s completely illogical. We have to learn to deal with this and get people back to work. It’s not going away.

Who are these experts and how recent is their data ? Often , there are very good reasons not to believe “ them” because what they say isn’t accurate. Believe who you want, but there is no substitute for personal experience. Perhaps there is someplace somewhere USA that has a problem, but testing has been ramped up for awhile. It’s good advise to always take everything with the required grain of salt. Even “ experts” don’t agree on everything and this isn’t exactly a theory anyway. It’s a practical matter: can you get a test or not? Yep, sorry not doing that. I’ll take my chances vs that contraption.

Just telling my personal experience. Don’t believe everything you see in the media. I doubt I’m the only one. A relative went to a mobile drive thru testing site in the south towns last week and had a similar experience. They are testing anyone ( no symptoms required) for the last several weeks and it takes just a few brief questions by phone to make an appointment. Results are fast, even more than I expected. Sometimes you just really have to go out and see for yourself. I’d recommend getting tested to anyone, and it will help contribute to counties amassing accurate data.

And thanks for asking, btw. Just wanted to dispel this narrative that is still out there about testing. Not enough tests, etc. sports talk show hosts still mention when talking about leagues starting up that they have to figure out testing without taking tests away from the public. That may have been an issue at one time, but not anymore. There are plenty of tests.

That was precisely my point to Tibs. Doesn’t mean a thing.

Results were negative: not detected. I don’t have any symptoms, just trying to help out w testing in Erie County. They’ve been testing asymptomatics for a few weeks now. Waiting in antibody results, but those are not part of Quomo benchmarks.

And the area hit hardest by Covid 19 in the entire world voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton in 2016. What are we to glean from that ?

I’ll say other. Allen gets a second contract with the Bills, is a top half of the league QB but doesn’t regularly make the top ten in passing statistics. He will lead the Bills to the playoffs and win. He will have his fans, and his detractors because he never fits into the neat little category that pundits say is a top ten NFL QB.

I’d say they probably can. I called NYS DOHC for test on Monday, scheduled for Tuesday. Went to drive thru testing site- was done and out in 5 minutes. I have insurance, but it’s not required at this site. Got results yesterday , so 48 hours. Have another test scheduled for next week, seems like there are more tests than people seeking them.

If New Yorkers (and I’m in western NY not NYC) weren’t persona non grata in Florida I’d be visiting within the next 2 weeks. Literally going nuts here and the weather has sucked all spring.

Nope. We’re now off in 3 metrics. Deaths ( pretty dependent on who gets the virus, not how much of it is around), Hospitalizations (lots of anecdotal evidence around that hospitals are classifying almost anything as Covid 19 for higher reimbursement rates) and something else that we weren’t sub par in a few days ago. Many of these benchmarks are kind of irrelevant and it’s a bit of a one size fits all approach. I think we got our testing up ( I got tested Tuesday, results were online today : not detected. Yay ! Another test scheduled for next week. Heck I’ll take one weekly if they want. Still waiting on antibody test results. Anyway, we’re screwed for another two weeks I think.

Totally illogical ! You can go to the mall, but not inside the store. They’ve really got the best and the brightest working on this stuff in San Diego. Exactly. With the hospitals fudging their numbers due to high Covid19 reimbursements, those hospitalizations are being given too much weight.

You are much more optimistic than I am . Feeling like we will be behind NYC but that’s just me.

I’m talking about Erie County specifically. It’s going to be hard / impossible to meet that benchmark. Not because we are horribly affected by Covid overall, but the criteria puts too much weight on who is getting it. Demographics are different in different regions of NYS, and yes I think NYC should be the last by far due to the impact there.

Oh, suicides will go up and up. No doubt about that. Republicans want to get the country reopened, as the data gleaned from a couple months of lockdowns would indicate. They’re not going to be strong armed by the Dems, with their taxpayer funded bailouts of poorly run states that were already bleeding money, or relief only given with liberal BS attached to it. If the DEMS can propose a realistic bill that actually helps people without garbage attached they will listen.

I thought the DA seemed kinda shady in this initially.

Couldn’t agree more. Why is the outcome of those who get Covid 19 important to opening up ? Shouldn’t the goal be hospital capacity and proper care for those who contract it ? Why aren’t we counting recoveries , including those who recover at home ? The outcome shouldn’t affect the ability of others to earn a living. Cuomo’s guidelines are pretty much impossible for most areas of NY. He has no intention of opening up, just of tanking the NY economy and using the crisis to bailout his mismanaged mess.