Boatdrinks

While I’m not dismissing testing as an effective tool, I’m extremely skeptical that the USA can use South Korea as any kind of template because it wasn’t caught here early enough. The testing thing seems to have become a blame placing measure , and yes I believe there is a lot of political motivation behind the lockdowns. The economy is a huge thing in Presidential elections. While the economy isn’t exactly going to to pick up where it left off, we can’t leave it shut down. It just cannot work that way. The virus absolutely will be an issue to some degree, but many will get back to some semblance of normalcy and adapt. Look how many people turn out when they open a beach somewhere. Medically, we may be going about things the wrong way ,if we examine the numbers. Having a lot of younger , healthy people get this virus could be the best thing that can happen. Anyway we cannot just throw up our hands and tank the nation into a depression because it might be a slow recovery. This virus is here to stay, and the sooner people admit that to themselves and move on the better. We are way past the point of a perfect solution barring a miracle. This is my opinion, of course and others will have varying opinions too. Let’s not kid ourselves that politics isn’t behind a lot of this media driven fear mongering. Cuomo has already said “ let’s use this to reimagine a better New York” or some crap like that. These Governors are using the Covid 19 crisis to enact progressive policies and turn their states into more of a liberal la-la land. It’s a progressive fantasy world for them right now, having Americans walk around in face coverings, sitting home waiting for government checks and being controlled like sheep.

Increasing testing doesn’t reduce the percentage of positives. The virus clearly has taken hold much more in the USA than South Korea. We are past the point of major containment, and we’ve already shut down the economy for too long. We can’t ramp up testing and think that it’s going to reduce the amount of infection present in the populace. So yes, in a sense that kind of testing is “ too hard” to execute at this point because there just isn’t that kind of capacity in the system for the current tests. That could change with a major breakthrough down the road, but we no longer have the luxury of time. Whoever that quote is from seems to want to blame the “ Feds” by focusing on testing while ignoring the fact the virus took a deep hold in the USA probably since December or so. This is a politically driven opinion from someone with an agenda; most likely the November election.

This thing isn’t nearly as deadly as Spanish Flu. I don’t know if anyone was asymptomatic with that ; ive seen estimates as high as 45% asymptomatic with Wuhan. Still not sure what level of testing you are envisioning but we don’t have the luxury of time it would take for major breakthroughs. The country will literally crumble to pieces. We still don’t have a vaccine for any of the other known Coronaviruses, fwiw.

You may be referencing a more recent comment. I am referring to one she made a couple of weeks ago that debunked the notion of daily testing before work etc. It was not in reference to antibody test.

Testing to what degree and in what fashion ? There is not going to be a perfect scenario. Dr Birx has already stated that there will never be the capacity to test on a daily basis or anything like that. Anyone can test negative today but positive 3 days from now. Safe is the most overused term I’ve heard with regard to reopening , and it’s fantasy. It’s not going to be completely “ safe” because the virus isn’t going anywhere. Politicians are hiding behind a false choice scenario. Contact tracing of positive cases is about the best we can do. Some level of social distancing initially upon reopening will help. An individual focus on hygiene and some personal discretion exercised by those who fall into vulnerable categories will be necessary going forward.

I know in Erie County the County Exec has stated repeatedly that anyone who has symptoms can get tested through their provider or through the County if they do not have one. No shortage of tests according to him. As for testing to tell where the virus might be breaking out I highly doubt that a system like that is even remotely possible. They can test the symptomatic and attempt to contact trace , which might be somewhat effective. Very hard to nail down contacts to that degree. I think there is a lot of magical thinking out there when it comes to testing. It can help, but it’s not a panacea. There is no way that everyone, everywhere is going to be virus free when things open up. Have to keep some extra hospital space available to stay ahead of the increase in cases, but even that has its limits. The draconian lockdowns are driving hospitals out of business and leading to furloughs of medical personnel. That’s ludicrous.

I can’t take anything Cuomo says as fact. The Michigan Gov has proven to be moronic as well. Not sure about Maryland, but most of these people seem to be stalling, moving goalposts, etc.

Lord Cuomo had a bazillion dollar deficit b4 Corona ....tremendous

We have a high rate of obesity and heart disease

It is the responsibility of the states.

Any less would have been racist....meanwhile still wondering why Governors didn’t lockdown, test, and trace as soon as they caught wind of a confirmed case under their watch. They have blood on their hands!!!!

A good start for NY to shape things up would be to cut its bloated Medicaid program down to something resembling the national average. Most or all of the Erie county property tax ( for example) is swallowed up by this out of control behemoth.

Dems are really the daffy ones here. As pandemics go, this one isn’t dangerous enough to the population at large for anything close to such an occurrence.

Courage in the face of fear is why we have a United States of America; land of the free , home of the brave.

Being that scared means nothing about science. It means you really haven’t looked into the numbers. You’ve been sold a bill of goods , Tibs. Stripping away of freedoms is far more scary than the virus.

The meek and fearful can refuse to work and hide in a cave. It’s America, and they are free to do so if they wish. Personally, I have continued to go to work the entire time. It’s not too dangerous for the overwhelming majority of people. It’s not the plague. Most people are not cowards, as well. They want to work. Man will always fight to be free. We’ve worked and lived through much more dangerous and “ unsafe” things than the Wuhan virus through the centuries.

No, Foolio that’s not what I mean. . I mean state governments. Some have become downright tyrannical , in case you haven’t noticed. Freedom is not free, and we the people may have to fight for it again...within our very own country.

The entire premise of this is dumb and dangerous. There might not ever be a vaccine. It could take a decade or more; who knows. What we do know is that we cannot let this virus become an excuse to destroy the very freedoms Americans enjoy; to effectively rip up the Constitution.Hopefully , such draconian measures will be fought vigorously by the people. The next revolution might be coming if idiots like this WaPo writer get their way.

Sick of all that, plus the incessant “ social justice” spots on NFLN. Actually, I’m sick of BB’s dog too.

It’s really simple. Just assume that everyone around you ( even those you know personally) are infected and contagious. If that makes you want to wear a mask as a measure of protection, go ahead and wear one. Not really a problem. Mandating the wearing of face covering in America - that’s a problem.

I’d be inclined to agree with you. Especially after examining the NYC data. It’s just the usual Tibs overreacting to some minutiae or a slight overstatement to ignore / dismiss the greater point.

Oh he’ll win another term as Governor, I believe . Mostly due to the reasons you stated.

There is some risk. It’s definitely not impossible ; there are documented cases. The larger point of his post is correct, though.

The man who said America wasn’t “ that great” ? I don’t believe he’d win, but a very sad situation if he did.

Yep, and the germ infested mass transit system must stay open . Meanwhile, golfers must walk the course because having one person per cart ( disinfected after every round) isn’t safe. The man is an idiot !