Boatdrinks

Wow, I truly didn’t know that. I don’t recall any outrage. Again , lost lives are diminished when we only care about the motives and weapons used.

This is one reason why Tibs is such a fool. The gun did what it was supposed to do- the trigger was pulled and it fired. The gun doesn’t know if it’s aimed at a target , a criminal etc. Should a vehicle manufacturer be sued by people whose family members were killed by the nut job who drove through a crowd? Focus on the criminals please! But hey, Libs rarely do.

Some suburbs. Look into it. Anyway what is your point? Again this has never happened here, and the criminal was not from the area.

True. Tibs is right about one thing. He had easy access and shouldn’t have because of NYS Red Flag law. It didn’t do what it was supposed to, and Tibs should be on the phone to legislators through the night to find out why.

Well no one on this board is downplaying such as heinous crime, the worst in Buffalo history and I believe the first since the City Grill shooting. ( correct me if I’m wrong ). Perpetrated by an outsider in a (supposedly) racist town. What on earth does this have to do with the Jan 6th mass trespassing in which an unarmed White protester was killed by Capitol Police , pray tell? Right? I think TH3s criteria might be good for something like having a child, though.

Agreed . Way too much focus on labels and words, not enough on ultimately being anti crime and pro law enforcement. Perhaps you should read up on this case and the nut job that carried it out. He isn’t from Buffalo or even close by. Buffalo is decidedly Democrat in every sense. You think Buffalo is racist because of a story involving a few ( probably drunk) idiots in a bar?

NYS already has a red flag law. Seems this kid would have fit in that category. Did the law fail or the people around him ( teachers , police etc) not to mention his parents ? Legislators cant rid us of crime, but we can get serious about penalties and committing the mentally disturbed.

We know the motivations, but shouldn’t be consumed by them. Deranged and evil people commit murder and often use guns. We know because shootings happen every day. We diminish those shootings and the lives lost when we focus only on those involving certain motives to drive a political agenda. Sadly major media outlets are complicit in this and the Buffalo shooting will get far more coverage than the other two that occurred over the same weekend. The focus should be on tough enforcement of existing laws and harsh sentences for criminals.

Ehhh no one is downplaying the horrific crime committed by this deranged murderer.

Bingo. Criminals and evil people are the problem when politicians refer to “ gun violence”. The only thing we can do is lock them up and bring back the death penalty. Harsh penalties are more helpful to the law abiding citizens than restricting their access to firearms.

I’m all for the Bills funding , but she’s awful otherwise. NY not a swing state so it’s already in a box for Presidential elections , save for Reagan anomaly.

We KNOW this is not what happened in 2020. Not that NYS matters much in Presidential elections but…

Thank you Yall. Tibs is one of the biggest race baiters on the board. Police are trained to de escalate when a suspect turns a gun on themselves. Suspects are often shot when they do not follow instructions and make a move to reach for a weapon or begin to aim it at officers etc. This killer knew exactly what he was doing and wanted to be taken alive. I wonder if Tibs knows about NYS existing “red flag” law and why it wasn’t used on this psycho ? A liberal approach to crime was more responsible than any rhetoric.

I can get on board with restricting someone who has made such a threat. He can’t legally own a handgun because the vast majority of shootings involve handguns, not rifles. Criminals obviously do lots of things that they can’t do legally. Legislation is hardly a panacea, as murders take place every single day. Restricting the rights of law abiding citizens in the hopes of deterring a few miscreants is not the answer.

Maybe lol … anyway I believe it’s a practice that the AP ( and others) have rather stupidly adopted .

I wonder what was said during that conversation , and how the man could glean such a conclusion from it? Sadly this tragedy is going to be exploited by the Democrat party. I’ve heard little discussion of the shooting in Milwaukee or California but perhaps they don’t fit so neatly into an agenda for the upcoming elections. Root causes are not too helpful because we aren’t talking about normal people here. We are talking about evil individuals that will kill others to satisfy something in their deranged minds. You’re absolutely correct that reasonable people would find all such killings deplorable. We all feel emotions such as anger , greed etc. As participants in civilized society we don’t act on such feelings by physically harming others. That’s what separates the vast majority of us ( fortunately ) from common criminals.

Agreed. As for why they are falling off the list it has to do with the liberal agenda. Bad people can be “ reformed” and criminals deserve another chance. I know a threat isn’t the same as carrying out a crime like this , but the warning signs - as seems all too common - were there.

Yes. They won’t because of a demented political ideology. Pure garbage.

On the surface that may seem sensible, but a look at the current administration and their ideas gives huge cause for concern. It won’t take long to turn into taking these things away from people with political ideas they disagree with. They’re already wanting to be the arbiter of “ truth “. Dangerous stuff.

Not really. The info is probably correct but their organizational agenda and politics makes them a garbage outfit.

His parents are probably oblivious, he has no friends and the liberal schools probably think he needs counseling or he’s triggered. He’s actually a homicidal psychopath.

Probably good information, but the fact that the AP will not capitalize the W in White as they do for others means anything they publish is useful only for wiping one’s posterior.

I Don’t care about the NRA at all. Someone else brought it up, I’m just calling out the nonsense.

Lies spewed as truth are far more upsetting than actual truth. That’s what makes Libs so frustrating . They twist everything from history to race to Covid to guns.

Yes pure garbage. The only thing that saved him from death by Cop was putting the gun to his own neck. We can’t say whether any other individual would have done this , much less based only on their skin tone. He also shot White people and a retired BPD Officer. Guess what? He hated them too. It seems Police were alerted last year about a threat this psycho made. He got a mental evaluation and counseling. A very Lib course of action and we see the result. I expect high level stupidity from Tibs and Billsy so this is no surprise.