oldmanfan

It tells you to look deeper into the question. Again, it is not meant to provide a definitive answer. I’d be curious what your degrees are in and whether you’ve conducted research. You need a good passer. But you might also benefit from a good runner.

No. It’s a question. The answer makes you go hmmmm. Wonder what that might mean? Maybe look a little deeper. A lot of Nobel prize winners started by asking a simple question, then going hmmmm.

It’s not pointless. It is an interesting data set that, if this were a scientific endeavor, would suggest further experimentation and analysis. Does it definitively prove or disprove anything? No.

Depends. Are you gaining your passing yards outside the red zone? Or get 12 runs for 10 yards from their 10 yard line? Teams that can do both and play good D win games.

I think they both know the defense better, they are both more mobile in the passing game, and I don’t see Brown being an upgrade in the run defense based on watching him here for several years. Am I so still waiting? As I said above folks, you can’t make this stuff up.

Your are like those not smart people.. Can’t make this stuff up folks.

I think they beat the Cowboys

And Brown would not help any of that. Do you recall watching Preston Brown play for the Bills? He made a lot of tackles but invariably far off the line of scrimmage. So even if your predictions are true, I don't see your point. And even if your predictions are right, if the Bills win each game, which I think they will, who cares?

Yeah but that's not a chance. That's foolhardy.

God, these threads are tiresome. Here is the reality: Josh Allen is the starting QB for the Buffalo Bills. He will start this entire year unless he gets hurt. Barkley is a backup, and will not be starting any games this year. Josh Allen is not a perfect QB yet, which is by far more the rule than the exception for second year QBs. He needs to be on the field to give this team the best chance to win games. He needs to do better with reads. Everyone can see that. He needs to play better in the middle of games, generally starts out OK and obviously is a very good 4th quarter guy. Everyone should also see that. When he makes his reads correctly and delivers the ball, he is very much on target with his receivers. Everyone who is watching objectively should see that. He is a threat with his feet as well, which gives him a skill set others don't have. Everyone can see that. He needs to figure out which guys to go to quicker, and he has to quit being afraid to throw picks on his long bombs; if they get picked it's basically a punt anyway. Everyone (except maybe Daboll) sees that. He will either get better with his reads and such over the course on his season and next, or he won't. If he does, he is poised to be really good. If he doesn't then he won't be the guy. But the only way to find that out is to play him, and bottom line is playing him (along with a strong D, which is what McD and Beane set out to do) the Bills are 6-3 and currently in 5th in the conference. We all need to quit trying to put so much emphasis on different metrics, and quit using them to change the discussion about the kid. Last year it was \the magical completion percentage of 60%. Early in the year it was clear he figured that out, so the metric changed to 300 yard games. When data was shown that 300 yard games and wins don't really correlate, all of a sudden it switched to completion percentage for long passes. When he hits a couple of those God knows what the next pivot will be to try and denigrate the kid. I have no idea if he will be the guy in Buffalo for the next 20 years. I hope so, I think any young QB that shows what he does in the fourth quarter of games has a really good shot at being the guy. No question he has to improve his performances, has to improve his reads so the offense is more effective. It's also true that receivers need to catch the ball when thrown to them, It's also true the line has to provide more consistent protection. It's also true the OC needs to get the most talented guys he has on the field (Singletary) and get them the ball. Let the kid play, let him develop, let him use his strengths as a player and let him (hopefully) shore up his weaknesses.

Moving your starting MLB to a new position this far into the season wouldn’t make sense

I'll back mine up. Brown makes a ton of tackles but he makes them after the runner has made 5 yards if not more. And he's a liability in pass coverage. So he doesn't help us.

What has Brown done to say he's better than the backups we have. You have your opinion, I have mine. Quit pretending yours is the be all and end all.

Well, no he's not actually.

And here we go. Any guy cut by another team must be an upgrade to a 6-3 team. Makes a ton of sense.

Allen is going to be the QB for years to come IMHO. His big thing now is reading defenses. That comes with time, and yes the time for him to develop that skill is growing shorter. Adding more pieces around him will also help. O line could still use a player or two. Obviously a really good WR. Ultimately for young QBs it’s about getting the game to slow down so you make good decisions. It’s slowing some for Josh but needs to slow down more.

Spain? Nseke? It is disturbing that the HC wanted X and got Y.

Of course.

We agree here. Let the kid play. And if you have a HC saying the plan is no time out and his OC saying they called one, then McD and Daboll better sit down and work that stuff out.

True. That’s why I said if you hit one it means a lot.

It’s nice that so many people are blowing off steam today. That’s all it is though, because everyone knows Allen is the QB the rest of this year and next year. His biggest problem area is recognizing defenses pre-snap and going to the right guy. Young QBs havevto figure that out. He needs to speed up that learning process. Long balls don’t concern me that much, although it is strange he isn’t hitting some. I saw a stat a couple years ago that throws over 30 yards in the air make up maybe 5% of total throws. You hit one it means a lot but you don’t base an offense on that.

I think you need to watch some other QB's play. This happens more than you think. Being precise (not really accurate) ain't as easy as it's cracked up to be. It's why guys like Brady are guys like Brady. Emotional reactions the day after a loss. Always fun to observe. Which is not to say Josh doesn't need to step some things up, pre-snap reads the most important from where I see things. But that takes time to master, and time is growing shorter.

I thought we'd either kill the Browns (because they were imploding) or they would kill us (because they were desperate).

They win the next three. Dallas is starting to come apart.

There is no QB in the world that has no accuracy issues, and the ones you intimate Allen has are overblown. Allen needs to continue to progress in reading defenses and knowing what his best choices are pre-snap.