oldmanfan

I’m not sure how old you are, but if you did not grow up in the 60’s like I did please quit presuming that folks back then celebrated then like they do now. We simply did not. If a guy scored you’d give him 5, guys would congratulate each other, but you didn’t have these choreographed stunts afterward. Guys did not have the individual celebrations after a sack or home run or whatever like you see now. The officials would have called it, and the coach would have benched you. As for it being a problem? Please. It is not a problem either way. It is expressing preferences and discussing such. If you can’t get that perhaps you have a problem.

Different strokes for different folks. In my era if you celebrated like that the coach would have pinned your butt to the bench. Because that kind of behavior was not considered as supportive of the team. But things change. And I get that. It’s not my thing, never will be. But that’s the way it is.

As an old schooler I’ll try to explain once again. Back in the day (the day being the 60’s for me) we were taught that the team was more important than the individual. We were taught that if you want to show up an opponent the best way to do so is to beat them, and then act like it was no big deal, like you could do it whenever you wanted. For us old school folks the actual football itself is entertainment enough. We see the antics some players do as distracting rather than adding to the entertainment. The celebrations are not the game; football is the game. We are not “ragging on” anyone. A question was asked and some of us old school folks voiced our preference. In contrast it seems more like some of those who appreciate the celebratory behavior are ragging on folks like me who simply are stating a preference, and why. I know things are not going back to the way I was taught, I am not demanding it should. Individuals will continue their stunts, I’ll frown, you’ll like it and life will go on. I’ll keep watching and rooting for them, so will you. All I ask is folks have some respect for the fact that different people can have different views.

We can only hope. Best special teams player ever should be in the Hall.

Unfortunately very slim. To my knowledge he’s never made it to the final15.

Got tears in my eyes last night.

Every other QB in the league, maybe in league history, would have just tried to fall on the ball there.

That was one of them to be sure

We’ll just have to agree to disagree. You win football games by beating the guy in front of you. Edge means having the edge physically, play calling, etc. Swagger is knowing you can do it. Running around after a play isn’t swagger; it’s just childish. Yes, I’m old fashioned. Yes, you can get off my lawn. Yes, I understand things have changed and this is what is acceptable these days. And yes we can have a different opinion. I respect yours, I hope you can return the favor. Go Bills!

It’s just preferences here. Some like the celebration stuff, some like me don’t. It’s like arguing about the Anchor Bar vs. Duff’s. We all realize our opinions aren’t going to change what happens on the field.

Do I believe it’s fixed? No. But some of the calls in the first half yesterday made me wonder more than usual.

I thought Cooper was done when I saw that hit.

You want to say it’s not a generational thing but deny what a generation was taught? That makes no sense. I am not trying to change the league, I have said several times now I know this is how things are these days. It’s just not my preference. You like it, I don’t. You don’t care about my opinion. Wow, I’m hurt. We just feel differently about something. Suck it up and deal with it.

I think trash talk is different than the celebrations referred to in the OP. Talking with opponents in the heat of the game has gone on forever. If running off by yourself after a sack and beating your chest is not “look at me”. Behavior, what is it?

Yeah. I have my thoughts on it, you have yours. I’ve said already I know things have changed, but I prefer acting like you’ve been there. We disagree. What is so wrong with that?

I’ll turn it into a generational thing because it is a generational thing. My generation played football like 50 years ago, not 20. And that is how my generation was taught. Don’t presume to tell me how my generation was taught. I say again I recognize things change with time. Bruce did this kind of stuff too and I wasn’t a fan of it then either. I’d rather they not do it; I understand many others like it. To each his or her own. But you’d sing a different tune if it cost a game. See the Egg Bowl thing yesterday? Ole Miss loses because a guy pretends he’s a dog taking a leak, pushed the PAT back to where the kicker misses? Where the hell do kids get that such conduct makes sense?

One of the things that amazed me this morning when reading about the 4thdown play was how many commentators said they score there if Dak throws a completion to Zeke. Poyer was going to light him up and Edmunds was there if Poyer needed help. No way he’s making the end zone.

This is a generational thing. My generation was taught to ignore that stuff, and answer by beating the other guy. And acting like it was no big deal, that we knew we could beat them every time.

Yep. Doesn’t mean they knew he had a torn ACL though.

They obviously didn’t know it was torn.

Can’t speak for him, but I just don’t like the celebration stuff. Doesn’t matter who does it. A little bit OK but just gets carried away too much.

You’re not getting it then. You want to make the the team feel bad, act like you can take them down anytime you want. That’s what we were taught back in the day. Again I understand things have changed to where it’s not making the other team feel bad but to draw attention to yourself by such actions. Don’t care who does it, Bills players or not. It doesn’t work for me. And for those saying accept it and enjoy the game? The game is called football, not acting.

No. As I said above you like it and I don’t. But you are making it overly personal and insulting in your comments.

It’s how you tell them. Older folks like me feel you tell them so by acting like it’s no big deal to kick your butt

I’m not. I accept it’s the new style, but I don’t have to like it. And we don’t have to have you trying to force it down the throats of those from another era when we were taught differently.